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Who's with President Bush?
townhall ^ | February 18, 2003 | Frank J. Gaffney, Jr.

Posted on 02/17/2003 9:27:11 PM PST by TLBSHOW

Who's with President Bush?

President Bush has characterized the choice to be made in this war on terror: "Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists." The stark clarity of this binary decision has served the United States well in marshaling a large number of nations in the fight against al Qaeda and a smaller, but still ample, number for the next phase of this war: the liberation of Iraq.

Regrettably, in the months since September 11, 2001, people who have made no secret of their sympathy for terrorists, provided them financial support, excused their murderous attacks and/or sought to impede the prosecution of the war against them have repeatedly been put in the company of the President. In other words, individuals and organizations who appear to be "with the terrorists" have time and again been allowed to be with the President in the White House and elsewhere.

For example: o On September 20, 2001 -- just nine days after the deadly attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon -- Shaykh Hamza Yusuf was the Muslim representative in a small ecumenical gathering held in the Oval Office.

At the same time, FBI agents were trying to interview him at his house in California since he had declared two days before the attack: "This country is facing a terrible fate....This country stands condemned. It stands condemned like Europe stood condemned because of what it did -- and lest people forget that Europe suffered two world wars after conquering the Muslim lands." His wife told the incredulous agents Yusuf wasn't home, he was with the President. o Six days later, President Bush met in the Roosevelt Room with a Muslim imam by the name of Muzammil H. Siddiqi. Siddiqi is a long-time board member of several organizations in the United States funded by, and closely tied to, Saudi Arabia's radical state religion known as Wahhabism. Two of these groups, including one where Siddiqi still sits on the board, were raided in March 2002 by Federal authorities in pursuit of terrorist financing.

This presidential meeting was all the more puzzling since the imam had shown his true colors by claiming, at a rally the previous October: "America has to learn...If you remain on the side of injustice, the wrath of God will come.

Please, all Americans. Do you remember that? Allah is watching everyone. God is watching everyone. If you continue doing injustice, and tolerate injustice, the wrath of God will come." o On September 17, 2001, President Bush paid a visit to the mosque in Washington. There he was photographed flanked by Nihad Awad, the executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR).

CAIR has long been an admirer and public defender of terrorist organizations whose attacks against even innocent women and children it sees as legitimate acts of "liberation." Awad has personally declared, "I am a supporter of the Hamas movement." o Also in the picture with President Bush at the mosque was Khaled Saffuri, currently chairman of an organization called the Islamic Institute, which he co-founded with conservative activist Grover Norquist.

Saffuri previously served as the development director of the American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, a supporter of the Palestine Liberation Organization when it made no bones about using terrorism for political purposes. He went on to become deputy director of the radical American Muslim Council (AMC), under then-director Abduraman Alamoudi -- a publicly declared supporter of Hamas and Hezbollah, whose statements of solidarity with these groups prompted the Bush 2000 campaign to return his contributions. Under Saffuri's leadership, the Islamic Institute has attacked the Bush Administration's investigations of radical Muslim groups and closures of organizations suspected of funding terrorists.

The Institute has been funded by groups raided in the above-mentioned terrorist financing investigations. It lobbied intensively against portions of the USA Patriot Act. And Saffuri has personally denounced the President's listing of the Holy Land Foundation as a charity that supported terrorist organizations. He has acknowledged sponsoring the children of suicide bombers through the Foundation, even after its closure by the government.

In addition to the President, a number of his senior subordinates -- including Cabinet officers -- have met, in some cases more than once, with members of the aforementioned and other organizations with troubling attitudes towards jihadist terrorists. A particularly bizarre instance was FBI Director Robert Mueller’s keynote address last year to the American Muslim Council.

The AMC has a long record of activities hostile to the Bush Administration’s prosecution of the war on terror. It has even urged Muslims not to cooperate with the FBI! Nonetheless, according to a press release dated last Thursday, Mr. Mueller has invited the AMC’s chairman, Dr. Yahya Mossa Basha, to attend an upcoming meeting with him and “leaders of major Muslim and Arab-American organizations.”

It is very much in the President's interest -- and the Nation's -- that moderate, law-abiding, peace-loving and patriotic American Muslims be embraced and empowered by the Bush Administration and all those who support it in waging a war on terror, not on Islam.

To do so, however, the Administration must not allow those who are “with” its enemies in that struggle to continue being with the President and his team.


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To: ohioWfan
It doesn't matter what you think.

You think homosexuality is a positive thing and you have attacked my beliefs regarding what God says.

So what ever you think, it can't possibly matter.
281 posted on 02/19/2003 3:24:45 PM PST by Jael (Thy Word is Truth!)
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To: TLBSHOW
What did you mean by this then:

Who's with President Bush? --->>>>> (We learn a sad truth here)<<<<<-------------Frank J. Gaffney, Jr. of Town Hall

What sad truth?

282 posted on 02/19/2003 3:25:29 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Jael
You don't even know what the information is - you've spent the whole thread being mad at Bush for appointing homosexuals.

Pssst! The original information was that TLB accused the President of being a Communist and just like x42. This thread was about calling Bush a traitor and Bush being in bed with the terrorists. None of your posts were even related!!
283 posted on 02/19/2003 3:25:30 PM PST by CyberAnt ( Yo! Syracuse)
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To: Con X-Poser
This is it.
284 posted on 02/19/2003 3:26:40 PM PST by Jael (Thy Word is Truth!)
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To: Jael
how did the shuttle thread get on this one?
285 posted on 02/19/2003 3:26:50 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: Jael
You're a little late to the party. The Freper he "quoted" denied he said it was ON FIRE.

Nice parsing on the "exploded" thing.......very Clintonesque.

286 posted on 02/19/2003 3:26:51 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Jael
Au contraire. OhioWfan did NOT say or imply that "homosexuality is a positive thing." You presume too much.
287 posted on 02/19/2003 3:27:05 PM PST by Carolinamom
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To: ohioWfan
"the old lady thread nannies who sit at home with nothing better to do tried to rip him for it. "

Hehehe.. Sounds like someone had sour grapes for lunch. I don't know about everyone else on this thread but I for one am not a nanny of any sort. I am a business owner and thanks to computers I'm able to multi-task. neener, neener, neener.

288 posted on 02/19/2003 3:27:06 PM PST by Darlin' (The choice is clear, you stand with us or you stand with terrorist)
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To: TLBSHOW
how did the shuttle thread get on this one?

Well, there's a lot of empty space here while we all wait to see how you weasel out of standing by your own stated opinions.

If you're too embarassed to claim your own words, maybe you should think about not posting them next time.

289 posted on 02/19/2003 3:27:52 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Wolfie; vin-one; WindMinstrel; headsonpikes; philman_36; Beach_Babe; jenny65; AUgrad; Xenalyte; ...
A ping to the WOD list to give you guys an example of how the pros flamewar. Folks, the arguments we've been getting into are nothing compared to this. I want a concerted effort by everyone to make our threads at least half as heated as this one. ;-)
290 posted on 02/19/2003 3:28:15 PM PST by jmc813 (Do tigers sleep in lily patches? Do rhinos run from thunder?)
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To: CyberAnt
Mad? What queer terms you use.

291 posted on 02/19/2003 3:28:22 PM PST by Jael (Thy Word is Truth!)
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To: All
Clearly there are too many words on this thread as some of us are getting confused....lets keep it down
292 posted on 02/19/2003 3:28:27 PM PST by woofie
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To: Howlin
You keep talking about Clinton, are you still a big fan of his or something?
293 posted on 02/19/2003 3:29:10 PM PST by Jael (Thy Word is Truth!)
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To: Jael
You think homosexuality is a positive thing and you have attacked my beliefs regarding what God says.

And you obviously cannot read.

Go back and see what I actually said about homosexuality, unless of course, you aren't interested in truth.

Another suggestion.......read the Scripture and find out what GOD actually says, and stop relying on your 'beliefs regarding what God says.' It will clear things up for you.

294 posted on 02/19/2003 3:29:12 PM PST by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President, our troops and our nation.....)
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To: TLBSHOW; Jim Robinson
Thank you Jim for your post.

And Todd, I think you better think twice before you start 'shading the truth'. Your implications were there for all to see.


I don't believe I said he was a traitor it is what people have said I said.

It does not look like Frank plans to drop it and me I have always wondered why The President and Mr Powell attacked Pat Robertson so hard and calls Islam Peace, looks like that answer is coming rather we like what it is or not. Because Islam isn't peace its a bloody cult.
20 posted on 02/17/2003 11:06 PM PST by TLBSHOW

I think I will have to say this country is being sold out from within and from who is what really saddens me tonight.
23 posted on 02/17/2003 11:27 PM PST by TLBSHOW

Thanks, I was afraid that was going to be my confirmation about President Bush. After refusing to go after Clinton and the CFR signing I have been on a fast track to this point but always hoping I was wrong.

I have fought it tooth and nail, many times standing up for him, but in my heart with my gift when he refused to bring Clinton up on charges in an instant that day the truth was told to me and I have fought it a long time back and forth hoping I was wrong maybe once since I recieved the gift of truth. I have not ever been wrong if I follow my first thoughts and not try and fight them.

I am deeply sadden tonight and I am going to sign off for the evening with this post. Frank J. Gaffney, Jr. is correct and he will be slammed but good by these people.
26 posted on 02/18/2003 1:10 AM PST by TLBSHOW

Do you understand what is being implied in this thread? Its been a long day since this thread started and I have done nothing but study all resources that I have and I do understand even better what is implied than I did when I found this story last night at Midnight. I am still doing research and study and I hoped what is being implied would be false. I say I had hoped!
34 posted on 02/18/2003 2:22 PM PST by TLBS

That they can't do because they have no idea about it. Frank would not write this for the heat he is taking if he wasn't maybe on to something, what it is should be found out before like Frank says the whole consevative movement is brought down.
118 posted on 02/19/2003 2:02 PM PST by TLBSHOW


295 posted on 02/19/2003 3:29:33 PM PST by justshe (Eliminate Freepathons! Become a monthly donor. Only YOU can prevent Freepathons!)
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To: Darlin'
Sounds like someone familiar, like a retread.
296 posted on 02/19/2003 3:29:34 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Jael
So you're saying that one must be a Christian to believe in limited, less-intrusive government?
297 posted on 02/19/2003 3:29:51 PM PST by Amelia
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To: Jael
You're going to have to do better than that. That was quite pathetic.
298 posted on 02/19/2003 3:30:06 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Jael
"since when" - since you brought it up - you said you had "God's view" - I was just trying to remind you what God's view really is.
299 posted on 02/19/2003 3:30:10 PM PST by CyberAnt ( Yo! Syracuse)
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To: mabelkitty
I understand.

I will be swayed if most "conservatives" go along.
300 posted on 02/19/2003 3:30:31 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (Extremism in the Pursuit of Liberty is no Vice!)
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