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Seize marijuana market from criminal class
The Free Lance-Star (Fredericksburg, VA) ^ | 2/9/2003 | Kevin B. Zeese

Posted on 02/11/2003 6:49:57 AM PST by MrLeRoy

WASHINGTON--A friend recently remarked to me, "Alcohol is the original date-rape drug." That's very sadly true. And it's why I found it hypocritical that the national drug czar's new ad equating marijuana use with teen pregnancy should debut during the Super Bowl, in which beer and sex were the dominant advertising themes.

Teen drinking is the bigger problem, both in sheer numbers as well as health risks, yet the federal agency overseeing drug-control policy ignores it. An antiteen drinking commercial would have been a powerful counterpoint during that game; the antipot ad came off as a clumsy attempt to maintain beer's market share.

These ads are emblematic of the government's overall war on marijuana. Since marijuana was first federally outlawed in 1937, prohibition has had the perverse effect of making marijuana more popular, particularly among youth and the counterculture. Our government insists on staying the course even though there is no evidence that criminalizing marijuana has ever reduced its use, let alone its trafficking. Meanwhile, the focus on marijuana diverts attention away from more serious problems.

Historian Barbara Tuchman once defined folly in government as the perverse persistence in bad policy in spite of evidence of its failure and the existence of a reasonable alternative.

Marijuana prohibition is a clear example of this. Reports by governmental commissions in several countries point out its failure and call for drastic changes, from decriminalization (for example, the Shafer Commission in 1972) to legalization (a Canadian Senate committee report in 2002). So many of our political leaders have tried marijuana that it becomes news if a politician ever denies any "youthful indiscretions." And yet, still prohibition persists. Why?

Some argue that marijuana is a dangerous drug so it must be banned. Yet we've decided that the dangers of alcohol and tobacco present an acceptable risk, so let's compare:

Alcohol overdoses kill more than 15,000 people each year in the United States, and alcohol-related deaths push the toll up to more than 100,000 annually; marijuana, according to the scientific evidence, has not racked up a single overdose death in centuries of use.

Alcohol use is involved in 40 percent of the violent crimes committed in the United States annually; marijuana is associated with meditative, peaceful behavior, while violence in the marijuana trade is the result of prohibition, not the drug.

Tobacco use is credited with more than 400,000 deaths annually, according to the Surgeon General; in spite of decades of trying, the federal government has still not found anyone dying from marijuana use.

Clearly, marijuana prohibition is not justified by health concerns.

Prohibitionists say we don't need to legalize yet another drug because the ones we have do too much damage. That argument misses the point in many ways.

First, marijuana is widely used, legal or not. At least 21 million people used it last year, according to the federal Household Survey. (The real number is much higher, possibly 40 million; government surveys of illegal behavior are not noted for their accuracy and are widely believed to underreport the true totals.)

More important, marijuana is not simply another substance, it's a less dangerous--not safe, but less dangerous--alternative to drugs we already make available. And, if regulated as we do with alcohol, there would be guarantees of marijuana purity as well as regulation of potency, something the illegal market does not provide.

Prohibitionists counter: Ending marijuana prohibition "sends the wrong message" that legalizing drugs supposedly connotes societal approval of drug abuse. Oh, really? Then we need to bring back alcohol prohibition because, by that logic, legal alcohol sends the message that alcoholism and alcohol abuse are OK. Obviously, that's not true. And we're not going back to alcohol prohibition. We need to turn in a different direction.

It makes no sense to continue threatening people with arrest over their simple use of marijuana. A regulated system takes control of the marijuana market away from the criminals. This means age limits, just as we have for alcohol--drug dealers never ask for ID.

As for the "gateway" theory? Research shows that alcohol and tobacco are more likely suspects than marijuana. A recent study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association found that early alcohol and tobacco use were strong indicators of later drug use. That study's authors contended that the link between marijuana and other illegal drugs may be due solely to marijuana's illegality, nothing more.

A regulated marijuana market--similar to alcohol but a little more restricted (no Super Bowl marijuana promotions, for example)--is workable. And selling U.S.-grown marijuana through state-run outlets similar to Virginia's ABC stores could bring in millions in tax revenue to states and the federal government.

So why does prohibition persist? As Tuchman put it in her book "The March of Folly": "Wooden-headedness, the source of self-deception, is a factor that plays a remarkably large role in government. It consists in assessing a situation in terms of preconceived fixed notions while ignoring or rejecting any contrary signs. It is acting according to wish while not allowing oneself to be deflected by the facts."

Seventy years ago, we ended the tragic mistake that was alcohol prohibition. The time has now come to end the folly of marijuana prohibition.


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To: CWOJackson
But nothing. Maybe you need glasses, I don't see that many people who are as you describe. Should the same be said of those who would like to see our constitution adhered to? I guess no one cares about that agenda either, judging by the current sorry state of affairs here in the US.
81 posted on 02/11/2003 8:46:53 AM PST by KEVLAR
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To: clamper1797
Me leave because you want me to? Yep, sure thing.

Your crew used to laugh at you a lot didn't they. As for contributing to this thread...what's to contribute. It's no different then any of the other hundreds of similar threads you people post, with the same old arguments, etc. Most of which end up being pulled or moved to the smokey backroom...

82 posted on 02/11/2003 8:48:10 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
It's one the TV news every night...not at all.

It's in the paper's every morning...not at all.

That doesn't support your "less and less" claim. Do you have any support, or was your claim just more ignorant windbaggery?

83 posted on 02/11/2003 8:48:12 AM PST by MrLeRoy ("That government is best which governs least.")
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To: CWOJackson
"as irrelevent as France"

You are the irrelevent tourist, eh? Always up for a visit! Bon voyage!

84 posted on 02/11/2003 8:48:44 AM PST by bvw
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To: KEVLAR
Yes, America is a terrible place and the Constitution is being trashed because you can't legally smoke pot.

Easy, more to Canada, they're so much more enlightened up there.

85 posted on 02/11/2003 8:49:11 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
OK CWO ... where did/do you serve ??? What is/was your rate/mos ????
87 posted on 02/11/2003 8:50:48 AM PST by clamper1797 (If we wanted the oil ... we'd just buy it.)
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To: CWOJackson
Now did I say that? No, nothing like it. How about actually addressing the posts to you. To difficult eh? Should we all stoop to your level then?
88 posted on 02/11/2003 8:52:46 AM PST by KEVLAR
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To: MrLeRoy
I would never contest your expertise for ignorant windbaggery. Just like I never underestimated your ability to win the war on drugs.

After your stunning victory in Nevada, LOL! You folks pumped millions of dollars into that campaign. Despite hundreds of adds, bill boards, quite a few million dollars and the efforts of thousands of pot activitists you couldn't get your vice legalized in a state where every other vice is not just legal, it's practised to excess. Prostitution, gambling and drinking all night are okay but not the pot.

Yep, you're winning.

89 posted on 02/11/2003 8:52:53 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
"that less and less people care about."

If you make a statement of fact, jack, you best be prepared to back. To back to it up, or back out with your tail between your legs.

90 posted on 02/11/2003 8:53:17 AM PST by bvw
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To: clamper1797
You still have some kind of assumption that I respond to demands from your kind?
91 posted on 02/11/2003 8:54:02 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: bvw
No thanks, I have no desire to immitate a member of your family.
92 posted on 02/11/2003 8:55:02 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: MrLeRoy
...it didn't make me any hornier.

I believe you. I need no evidence to believe that.

Let me just say that it made ME horny. And I will not provide "evidence" to support my claim.

93 posted on 02/11/2003 8:55:35 AM PST by avenir (Not responsible to provide evidence of any kind to Mr. LeRoy, at any time.)
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To: avenir
And I will not provide "evidence" to support my claim.

Thank God for small miracles.

94 posted on 02/11/2003 8:59:47 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: MrLeRoy; Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
Indeed. The WODdies' imperviousness to facts and logic is a textbook example of Orwell's "crimestop."

I just looked up "crimestop" and found the newspeak dictonary.

Look what I found under doublethink:

doublethink - The power to hold two completely contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accept both of them. A good example of doublethink in modern society is the war on drugs. If you ask people their opinion on alcohol prohibition in the 1920s, most people would agree that it was a complete failure. People agree that it only caused more crime, it made gangsters rich, it corrupted politicians, and most importantly ... it didn't keep people from drinking. Yet, we have almost the exact same situation today with war on drugs, yet most people think that our modern prohibition is a good idea ... and more than that, they believe that anybody that thinks that the war on drugs isn't a good idea must be completely out of their minds. In order for a person to be effective at doublethink, they must master the art of crimestop.
This word has even made its way into the Merriam-Webster dictionary:

dou·ble·think ('d&-b&l-"thi[ng]k), noun, Date: 1949 : a simultaneous belief in two contradictory ideas.

95 posted on 02/11/2003 9:00:05 AM PST by SkyRat (If privacy wasn't of value, we wouldn't have doors on bathrooms.)
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To: CWOJackson
Still trolling at #92. You must be really effing bored today.
96 posted on 02/11/2003 9:00:43 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Never too bored to stop by and offer my words of encouragement.
97 posted on 02/11/2003 9:02:59 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Perhaps you haven't notice, but you folks have been posting the same old tired crap every day for years now and absolutely nothing has changed...except in Canada.

Perhaps you haven't noticed but the number of anti-drug war articles have gotten more numerous and more critical of the effects thereof. A decade ago, you wouldn't have seen anyone who would have gone into print criticising the war against cannabis. Now you see even such conservatives as William Buckely Jr. coming out against the moronic war.

Absolutely, much has changed. And it's gaining momentum.

98 posted on 02/11/2003 9:03:45 AM PST by William Terrell (Advertise in this space - Low rates)
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To: CWOJackson
In my years of experience ... no serviceman ex or active disrespects another serviceman the way you so readily do. I'm beginning to think that it is your father that was/is the real CWO. Your apparant avoidance to my question about your service, which any serviceman I ever knew would eagerly answer, only reinforces that opinion.

BUT it IS in VERY bad taste to question ones service ... so I will NOT pursue it any farther.

I did check out your very enlightening profile .. I find it to be a VERY comprehensive listing of all that is of interest about you.

99 posted on 02/11/2003 9:06:03 AM PST by clamper1797 (If we wanted the oil ... we'd just buy it.)
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To: William Terrell
No doubt you're gaining momentum. I've already acknowledged your brilliant victory in Nevada. Simply stunning.
100 posted on 02/11/2003 9:06:09 AM PST by CWOJackson
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