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To: angelo; xzins
Okay. I can see you're having a bit of fun with us Calvinist types.

But Augustine's opinions aren't too relevant to non-Romans. And one could say that only some of Augustine's writings interest even the church of Rome. We Calvinists take him seriously on predestination because he argued from scripture on that matter and not merely because we need a big name from the early churches to uphold our position. Well, I'm not sure that came out exactly as intended but my backspace key is broken.

So, do you, angelo, have any scripture that tells us to love others (which of course we do find abundantly) but to hate their sins?

I don't think you can find them in the New Testament.
195 posted on 01/28/2003 12:35:58 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: George W. Bush
Okay. I can see you're having a bit of fun with us Calvinist types.

Moi? ;o)

Actually, this was new information to me, too, when I searched for the origin of the quote.

So, do you, angelo, have any scripture that tells us to love others (which of course we do find abundantly) but to hate their sins?

Well in fact I agree with you that the quote is not scriptural. That is why I did a search to find its actual origin. Lots of people think "the Lord helps those who help themselves" is scriptural, too. Another of those common misconceptions.

196 posted on 01/28/2003 12:52:31 PM PST by malakhi (fundamentalist unitarian)
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