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To: George W. Bush; xzins
I think Falwell was responsible for this one, at least, that's where I heard it first and he keeps repeating it.

Actually, this expression appears to have originated with that proto-Calvinist Augustine. Cum dilectione hominum et odio vitiorum. "With love for man and hatred of sins". From his monastic rule and/or his Letter 211 (J.-P. Migne (ed.) _Patrologiae Latinae_ (1845), vol. 33).

194 posted on 01/28/2003 12:26:23 PM PST by malakhi (fundamentalist unitarian)
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To: angelo; xzins
Okay. I can see you're having a bit of fun with us Calvinist types.

But Augustine's opinions aren't too relevant to non-Romans. And one could say that only some of Augustine's writings interest even the church of Rome. We Calvinists take him seriously on predestination because he argued from scripture on that matter and not merely because we need a big name from the early churches to uphold our position. Well, I'm not sure that came out exactly as intended but my backspace key is broken.

So, do you, angelo, have any scripture that tells us to love others (which of course we do find abundantly) but to hate their sins?

I don't think you can find them in the New Testament.
195 posted on 01/28/2003 12:35:58 PM PST by George W. Bush
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