[Dataman]

Criticism is "allowed" all the time. What makes you think it's not? Hell, the whole process of peer-review is to *invite* criticism, loads of it, as much as people can think of.

Let's be honest now Dan. Criticism by peers isn't the issue. Criticism of the theory is discouraged and even enforced by law in the public schools. A system as sound and proven as evolution shouldn't be afraid of criticism. You people feel free to criticize creationism. Now what if we used the power of the government to stop critcism and smugly claim that peers criticize the system regularly? Where is your sense of fairness? Double standards seem to be the rule here.

Creation doesn't fear criticism nor does it demand the removal of the evolutionary theory from schools.

Did I leave out the word "public?" Those right-wing fundamentalists, People for the American Way commissioned a survey within the last two years that showed parents who favored creation wanted both views taught in schools while parents who favored evolution wanted evolution only. Now doesn't that tell you something about the indefensible nature of evolution?

Hume (1711-1776) lived before almost all modern science, and all of evolutionary theory, so I'm not sure he's the best person to look to for a balanced consideration of religion versus science.

You're contradicting your buddies.

Peppered moths aren't "fake", they're perfectly real.

Why are you defending a proven fraud? Peppered Moths were glued on a tree to prove evolution was happening before our eyes. This is well known. Search on "Peppered+Moths+Fraud."

[Aric2000]

Let's be honest now Dan. Criticism by peers isn't the issue. Criticism of the theory is discouraged and even enforced by law in the public schools. A system as sound and proven as evolution shouldn't be afraid of criticism. You people feel free to criticize creationism. Now what if we used the power of the government to stop critcism and smugly claim that peers criticize the system regularly? Where is your sense of fairness? Double standards seem to be the rule here.

Creation doesn't fear criticism nor does it demand the removal of the evolutionary theory from schools.

Did I leave out the word "public?" Those right-wing fundamentalists, People for the American Way commissioned a survey within the last two years that showed parents who favored creation wanted both views taught in schools while parents who favored evolution wanted evolution only. Now doesn't that tell you something about the indefensible nature of evolution?

Let's get real, shall we?

Parents who want creationism taught in SCIENCE class are clueless about what science is.

Science is about facts, and evidence.

When you say god did this, Creationism/ID, you are talking about religion, NOT SCIENCE. No matter how many times you restate, fall back etc, it comes down to the same crap.

Creationists, who are clueless about science, Literal creationists that is, want their "theory" taught in science class. Sorry there Dataman, but creationism is NOT science and therefore should NOT be taught in science class.

If you have a TRUE SCIENTIFIC theory that would compete with evolution for scientists attention, I will be the first one to say, GREAT, let's do it, because the students should be allowed to see competing SCIENTIFIC Theories.

Problem is, YOU DON'T HAVE ONE!! ID is a religious theory, there is NO evidence of a grand designer, scientifically. You Idr's just say, ohh, that's so complicated, must be designed.

That's like me looking at my car and saying, oohhh, that's too complicated, god must have done it. Come on, all I have to do is study a bit, and what do you know, I can understand my car. Well, REAL scientists look at an organism, and go ohh, isn't that complicated, let's see how that might have come to be.

You take comfort in creationism, WONDERFUL, then teach it to your kids, but it is NOT science, no matter how many different ways you say it.

Please see my tag line.

It's an easy, easy thing to understand, all it takes is a little LOGIC.