[Dataman]

Tossing personal insults my way does not answer the question. Do you refuse or are you unable?

I'm sure that the fact that you think you do makes the evolutionists chuckle as much as does me.

You must demonstrate your understanding of logic by putting it in practice. When logic puts the full nelson on your argument, pretending it's nonsense does not release the hold.

Demonstrate your proficiency in logikos by answering my questions rather than avoiding them. Answer the question of how matter could be eternal. I submit that you not only cannot give a logical explantion but that you will likely avoid the question as you have previously.

The lurkers are watching. So give it another try.

Matter: is it
eternal
or
created?
State your evidence.

You have stated that it has always existed but you were not entirely clear as to whether it existed before the Big Bang or was created by the Big Bang. You, believing that time began with the BB cannot logically believe it existed before the beginning of time. You've had a full day to answer this question. How much more time do you need? The lurkers are waiting for your answer.

[beavus]

Tossing personal insults my way does not answer the question. Do you refuse or are you unable?

Your choice, Herr Presumptio. If you change your mind again, and want discussion, you know what to do.

[balrog666]

Answer the question of how matter could be eternal.

The problem is that this is your strawman. We have yet to nail down the problem of proton decay, which, if it proves to a verifiable significant factor, might mean that all matter in the universe will decay in the next 20-50 trillion years. Of course, scientists have proposed other alternatives, but you probably wouldn't recognize them.

[Phaedrus]

The density is amazing, Dataman. They really don't get it and it cannot be reduced to "See Spot run".

[Dan Day]

You must demonstrate your understanding of logic by putting it in practice. When logic puts the full nelson on your argument, pretending it's nonsense does not release the hold. Demonstrate your proficiency in logikos by answering my questions rather than avoiding them. I submit that you not only cannot give a logical explantion but that you will likely avoid the question as you have previously.

So after running on and on about "logic logic logic", Dataman immediately goes to:

The lurkers are watching. So give it another try.
Matter: is it
eternal
or
created?

Someone who was actually as logical as he thought he was wouldn't stub his toe so badly on such a blatant "false dichotomy" fallacy...