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Refuting Darwinism, point by point
WorldNetDaily,com ^ | 1-11-03 | Interview of James Perloff

Posted on 01/11/2003 9:53:34 PM PST by DWar

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To: balrog666
Just calling evolution a theory is an overstatement . . . only an idea // mood // feeling - - - an ideology // oddity ! ! !


801 posted on 01/21/2003 10:07:07 AM PST by f.Christian (Orcs of the world: Take note and beware.)
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To: Aric2000
Science is about facts, and evidence.

Yes it is. That is why evolution isn't science.

We'll nail you guys every time you SAY you are scientific and then defend the theory for which there is no evidence.

802 posted on 01/21/2003 10:12:15 AM PST by Dataman
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To: Dan Day
You obviously presume that if matter didn't "create itself", or "always existed", then the only option left was that "matter was created", *and* (your unspoken premise) that if it was indeed created, then it was created *by an intelligent deity*.

Of course, it's also funny that they then assume that it was their deity and not someone else's or the Flute-Playing Locust or the Trickster Coyote or the little pink unicorns or ...

803 posted on 01/21/2003 10:12:32 AM PST by balrog666 (If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything - Mark Twain)
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To: whattajoke
Philosophical? 4-5 billion humans today say, "nope."

And the evidence for such a statement? I thought so. Regardless, if popularity were the indicator of truth, the sun would actually revolve around the earth.

Metaphysical? you win that one, as science stays away from all things metaphysical.

Science only claims it stays away. Perhaps you deny that the concept of eternal when applied to matter is not in the realm of the metaphysical. Perhaps quintillions of stars pressed into the size of an atom is hard science. And maybe even the mythical dark matter has been studied under a microscope. Naa. Science stays away from the metaphysical... when convenient.

Evidential? Again, the Genesis account fails rather miserably.

This seems to be a unit of information that most of you have not been able to absorb: Evolution is a Swiss cheese theory regardless of Genesis. Evolution ain't science regardless of Genesis. Evolution defies logic regardless of Genesis.

804 posted on 01/21/2003 10:20:50 AM PST by Dataman
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To: Phaedrus
For you to accuse Dataman of dishonesty is a wholly unjustified slur that in fact reflects poorly upon your honesty.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA! Oh, Phaedrus, you are such a scream!

805 posted on 01/21/2003 10:27:42 AM PST by balrog666 (If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything - Mark Twain)
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To: Dataman
And the evidence for such a statement [4-5 billion humans don't subscribe to the genesis story]?

Ok, my numbers may be off by a relative few, but you can hardly argue the billions of non Jews and non Christian would have "philosophical" differences with the genesis account.

Your "metaphysics" retort is curious. Again I must point out to you a bit of basic biology: Evolution (the subject of this thread) does not deal with dark matter, eternity, or the big bang. I am not an expert in physics or astronomy, nor do I pretend to be. There is "theoretical physics" and there is "metaphysics." Learn the difference.

Evolution is a Swiss cheese theory regardless of Genesis. Evolution ain't science regardless of Genesis. Evolution defies logic regardless of Genesis.

I, too, am still trying to decipher Abacab, and as for Susudio... I've given up. Anyway, for a "swiss cheese theory" it is certainly doing a fantastic job standing up to the fringe nuts such as yourself.
806 posted on 01/21/2003 10:35:00 AM PST by whattajoke
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To: whattajoke
...and as for Susudio... I've given up.

Just say the word, ohhhhh ;)

807 posted on 01/21/2003 10:45:29 AM PST by general_re (Save the whales. Feed the hungry. Free the mallocs.)
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To: whattajoke
Evolution is a retro theory . . . implant - - - stepford science // lies ! ! !
808 posted on 01/21/2003 10:58:02 AM PST by f.Christian (Orcs of the world: Take note and beware.)
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To: jlogajan
Well, some people have faith in God, some people have faith that a series of mutations (nature's 'miscalculations') kept happening until something good came of it. Then that something good had to wait around until another something good came from more mutations, and so on and so on.

Belief in either is a choice, because neither position is supported by incontrovertible proof.

By the way, I've always wondered - if evolution is supposedly true, why don't we have more 'varieties' of humans, e.g. some with arms that reach nearly to their ankles, some with only one eye in the middle of their forehead and so on. Strange we don't find bones and fossils of such things either.

809 posted on 01/21/2003 11:11:42 AM PST by MEGoody
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To: RadioAstronomer
"I do not 'believe' in evolution. I accept the data that has been uncovered to date."

I guess that makes two of us.

810 posted on 01/21/2003 11:11:56 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew (It'll all come out in the wash.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Good! I am sorry if I offended you earlier. :-(
811 posted on 01/21/2003 11:13:49 AM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: RadioAstronomer
unfortunately, RA, Fester is an unabashed creationist and was using irony in his post, I believe.
812 posted on 01/21/2003 11:29:48 AM PST by whattajoke
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To: MEGoody
By the way, I've always wondered - if evolution is supposedly true, why don't we have more 'varieties' of humans, e.g. some with arms that reach nearly to their ankles, some with only one eye in the middle of their forehead and so on. Strange we don't find bones and fossils of such things either.

See, I think creationists like MEGoody who post stuff like this are well meaning and would be willing to learn some new things. That's why I don't demean posts like this. Gore3K, however, knowingly posts lies and twists words of others to further his cause.

Instead of explaining to you why we don't have oddly armed humans, or 3 eyed folk running around (let alone fossils of these anomalies), I'd like to ask you if you are truly curious, or just trolling.
813 posted on 01/21/2003 11:34:30 AM PST by whattajoke
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To: DWar
"..........First, mutations – long claimed by evolutionists to be the building blocks of evolutionary change – are now known to remove information from the genetic code. They never create higher, more complex information..........."

Wrong...............they do!

Author shows his ignorance for the basics of genetic theory and therefore invalidates his arguements.

814 posted on 01/21/2003 11:36:34 AM PST by DoctorMichael (Useful Idiots Abound.)
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To: DoctorMichael
We (( conservatives )) pretty much know the last hurrah of liberal (( 3rd way )) // socialists will be evolution // gaia ! ! !
815 posted on 01/21/2003 11:47:42 AM PST by f.Christian (Orcs of the world: Take note and beware.)
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To: beavus
To: f.Christian

Dakmar...

I took a few minutes to decipher that post, and I must say I agree with a lot of what you said.

fC...

These were the Classical liberals...founding fathers-PRINCIPLES---stable/SANE scientific reality/society---industrial progress...moral/social character-values(private/personal) GROWTH(limited NON-intrusive PC Govt/religion---schools)!

Dakmar...

Where you and I diverge is on the Evolution/Communism thing. You seem to view Darwin and evolution as the beginning of the end for enlighted, moral civilization, while I think Marx, class struggle, and the "dictatorship of the proletariat" are the true dangers.

God bless you, I think we both have a common enemy in the BRAVE-NWO.

452 posted on 9/7/02 8:54 PM Pacific by Dakmar

816 posted on 01/21/2003 11:55:43 AM PST by f.Christian (Orcs of the world: Take note and beware.)
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To: beavus
Then came the SPLIT SCHIZOPHRENIA/ZOMBIE/BRAVE-NWO1984 LIBERAL NEO-Soviet Darwin America---the post-modern evo fascist expert age . . .


To: f.Christian

Now I follow, thank you. Actually, I don't disagree with this at all since I see the left as abandoning the uncertianty of democracy and majority rule for the assurance technocracy and expert rule.

152 posted on 9/10/02 12:17 PM Pacific by Liberal Classic


817 posted on 01/21/2003 12:01:47 PM PST by f.Christian (Orcs of the world: Take note and beware.)
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To: DWar
As long as nuts go to Bagdad as "Human" shields Darwinism will be a good theory
818 posted on 01/21/2003 12:04:36 PM PST by Diana Rose (4GOT10)
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To: f.Christian
Simple evolution . . . in the post industrial age there is no working class to pander // exploit - - - presto // evobotniks will 'rule' // reproduce ! ! !
819 posted on 01/21/2003 12:06:05 PM PST by f.Christian (Orcs of the world: Take note and beware.)
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To: balrog666
Honesty is not among the most important fundamental values? Bill Clinton couldn't have said it better.
820 posted on 01/21/2003 12:54:19 PM PST by Phaedrus
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