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Child killer has proclaimed innocence in cards, visits
San Diego Union Tribune ^ | 1/3/03 | Alex Roth

Posted on 01/03/2003 7:26:19 AM PST by Jaded

Early last month, Dave Laspisa, a Poway businessman, opened his mail and discovered a holiday card from his old friend David Westerfield.

"Greetings of the Seasons," the card announced, and inside was a handwritten note of thanks for Laspisa's support.

Van Dams file lawsuit against Westerfield

During the past year, Laspisa has been fairly vocal in his belief that Westerfield, his camping buddy, had nothing to do with the murder of 7-year-old Danielle van Dam.

"Please know that I was not involved in the death of this child," Westerfield wrote. "I'm saying this to you not to solicit more help but only to give you direct knowledge."

The card's imprinted message offered a wish that "the beauty of the season fill each heart with joy and cheer, and happiness fill every moment of the coming year."

In the past several months, friends and relatives have either received cards from Westerfield or visited him in the county jail as he awaits sentencing for abducting and killing the Sabre Springs second-grader, who lived two doors away. The sentencing is scheduled for this morning in San Diego Superior Court.

The former design engineer, who turns 51 next month, tells everyone essentially the same thing: He has been convicted of a crime he didn't commit.

He says he has no idea how the girl's blood got on his jacket or how her fingerprints got in his motor home. He says news reports of an aborted pretrial plea bargain are off base. He says he wanted to testify but stayed silent on his lawyers' advice.

Asked about the child pornography in his house, he told one friend, former business associate Carmen Genovese, that he was simply collecting the images so he could send them to Congress as examples of smut on the Internet.

Most of his friends aren't quite sure what to think at this point. At least one has come to the conclusion that Westerfield is probably guilty. Others, including Laspisa, still refuse to accept the prosecution's basic theory – that Westerfield is a pedophile who raped the child before killing her.

To a person, all of his friends continue to wrestle with the idea that a guy they thought they knew – a man who barbecued with them and shared holidays with them, a man who spent time with their children – could be capable of such a crime.

"I want to believe him because I feel like I know him," said Genovese's wife, D'Onn, who has been friends with Westerfield for 10 years. "And I don't want to believe him because that means there was funny business on the police side and there's someone still out there who does these things to children."

The sentencing is set for 8:30 a.m. today before Superior Court Judge William Mudd and will be carried live by several television stations, the final bit of drama in a case that has received more media attention than any other in San Diego County history.

In September, a jury recommended the death penalty for Westerfield, but Mudd has the authority to impose a sentence of life in prison without parole instead.

To some degree, today's proceeding represents one of the final loose ends in Westerfield's life. His house on Mountain Pass Road was sold months ago for $435,000, with the proceeds going to his lawyers. So were his sport utility vehicle and the dune buggies he took on camping trips to the desert. Many of his clothes have been given to charity.

Westerfield's 37-foot motor home – inside of which, prosecutors say, the girl was killed at some point during the first weekend of February 2002 – is in police custody and will be repossessed by a bank once he is sent to prison.

Westerfield, meanwhile, sits in the county jail in downtown San Diego, where he is isolated from other prisoners and where he has received a steady stream of visitors who speak to him through a closed-circuit television feed.

His college-age son and daughter have visited him about twice a month since his conviction. So have his sister and her husband.

During several visits with John Neal, the brother of Westerfield's second ex-wife, Westerfield talked about an appeal while recognizing that he's in for a long wait.

"He said he's getting claustrophobic being stuck in the jail and not having any hope of getting out soon," Neal said.

As for the girl's kidnapping and murder, Neal said, Westerfield has been consistent: "He has no idea what happened to Danielle. He had nothing to do with it."

Despite the enormous amount of physical evidence, despite the holes in Westerfield's alibi, despite the documented falsehoods in the stories he told to police and despite the collection of child porn, Neal said he's inclined to believe his former brother-in-law.

So, too, is Carmen Genovese, who has known Westerfield since the two men worked together 20 years ago at a company that manufactured orthopedic devices.

Until recently, Genovese, who lives in Encinitas, hadn't spoken to Westerfield since his conviction. Genovese's wife admits the couple had been troubled by his defense. In short, she said, they felt as if their friend behaved during the trial like a guilty man trying to avoid punishment.

If he had been wrongfully accused, D'Onn Genovese wondered, why hadn't he taken the witness stand to "shout it from the tallest mountain"?

Then in mid-December, a holiday card from Westerfield arrived. Like the card to Laspisa, it contained a handwritten note in which Westerfield denied any involvement in the crime.

Two days before Christmas, Genovese visited Westerfield in jail and they spoke for more than an hour, during which Genovese peppered his friend with question after question about the evidence.

How did Danielle's blood get on Westerfield's jacket, which he took to a dry cleaner at daybreak after returning from the meandering, 550-mile motor-home journey on the morning of Feb. 4?

"He says he has no clue how it got there," Genovese said.

Why didn't he testify or show emotion during the trial? It was all his lawyers' doing, Westerfield said.

"He was told – in fact, he was admonished a few times on the side – not to show any emotion," Genovese said.

What about the story in the Union-Tribune that Westerfield's lawyers tried to broker a plea bargain in February whereby he would reveal the location of the girl's body in exchange for a life sentence rather than the death penalty? Sources have confirmed those details in numerous conversations with the Union-Tribune, both before and after the article's publication.

In that matter, Westerfield didn't go into much detail with Genovese, other than to say it was the prosecution that approached the defense with the suggestion and that his lawyers simply listened to the offer. Westerfield's lawyers have declined to speak to the Union-Tribune.

Did Genovese find Westerfield's explanations persuasive?

"The guy is really a nice man," Genovese said. "I don't know whether he did it or not. I really don't. He tells me he didn't do it, and I have to believe him."

Not all of Westerfield's friends are as charitable. Wes Hill, the best man at Westerfield's second wedding, said the article about the aborted plea bargain convinced him that Westerfield committed the crime.

Hill, a former design drafter who lives in Utah, hasn't spoken to Westerfield since the trial and hopes his old friend "will go through some psychiatric counseling and get some help. He definitely went off the deep end."

"The only thing I can figure is that the pornography must have taken its toll," Hill said. "He got hooked into that and it warped his mind."

As for Laspisa, who has been outspoken in his support of Westerfield, he allows himself to say this much: "I do believe the real story has not been told."

In a recent interview, Laspisa acknowledged the possibility that Westerfield might have been involved in Danielle's death. But he refused to accept that Westerfield sneaked into the girl's bedroom with the intent of kidnapping, raping and killing her.

Laspisa speculated that perhaps the victim was sleepwalking in the neighborhood on the night of Feb. 1 and that Westerfield, driving home drunk from a bar in Poway, hit her, killed her and then panicked.

"In my mind, in my opinion, if it happened, it didn't happen the way it was presented in court," he said.

Laspisa is convinced of one thing, and on this point his views converge with those of virtually everyone else: No one except Westerfield will ever know exactly what he was thinking on that first weekend in February.


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To: UCANSEE2
You immediately refute my analysis - WHAT analysis???
I have not been analyzing his remarks - I posted an article.
I am listening to the interview right now - not analyzing it.
361 posted on 01/07/2003 6:49:34 PM PST by EllaMinnow
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To: redlipstick
He took a polygraph....and failed, per the tape.
362 posted on 01/07/2003 6:52:08 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
Q.Dave, please tell us where she is...

A.I have to talk to a lawyer FIRST.
363 posted on 01/07/2003 6:54:31 PM PST by EllaMinnow
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
I think the Van Dam's are pretty reprehensible too. That doesn't make Westerfield any less guilty. Westerfield killed her & if the Van Dam's were ax murderers instead of immoral degererates, Westerfield would still be guilty of killing Danielle.
364 posted on 01/07/2003 6:55:20 PM PST by Ditter
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To: cyncooper
They were begging him to tell where she was - he says he wants a shower and a public defender, then he'll talk.

I can't listen to any more tonight.
365 posted on 01/07/2003 6:58:16 PM PST by EllaMinnow
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To: redlipstick
I can't listen to any more tonight.

The RR show is over anyway. They will play the tape in its entirety sometime tomorrow. I will try to view it online well before that.

366 posted on 01/07/2003 7:01:38 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: UCANSEE2
Here's my advice to you. Go to www.signonsandiego.com and follow the links - then you can hear the whole thing for yourself.
Take it however you want.
367 posted on 01/07/2003 7:03:26 PM PST by EllaMinnow
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To: UCANSEE2
I refute your analysis of his comments. It seems like it depends on how you view the case, as to how you see his comments. Instead of letting others decide for themselves, you have stated how you believe this is all indicatory of guilt.

What are you talking about here?

redlipstick posted an article with not one word of her opinion thrown in. Then I posted an *excerpt* of that article with not word of personal comment made. The additional posts we made were what is on the tape as part of it was played on the Rick Roberts show---with again, no personal opinion stated--just what is on the tape.

I didn't bother to read past the above false accusation.

368 posted on 01/07/2003 7:06:40 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: UCANSEE2; Jaded
Been listening to the tapes of the Keyser/Ott interrogation of DW on the Rick Roberts show. It seems Jackie requested Dave go get a ping-pong ball for a little experimentation.

Dave says he hadn't downloaded any porn for over a year and was only seeing what was available online without having to pay, or that anyone could download. Says he copied on to 3 cd's to get it off his computer. I have done the same thing with my folders titled "Media Bias" of which FR posts are 60%.

I'm tired of documenting bias in the media and wanted to save the 1 gig of space. The same with other interests like the computer game Quake, How to program in C, etc.

Soon, I'm sure my "Westerfield" folder will be similiarly archived.

Keyser/Ott sound like jackasses asking about the screen in the bathroom. Dave tells them the only thing he knows he can see from there is the street. Which means other people could see him.

How far would the detectives go to get a conviction if they truly believed DW guilty? The jacket wasn't even tested for blood until the 13th. Plenty of time for our crime fighters to pull a Rampart - San Diego style.

I'm sorry, but the only way you find this guy guilty is by harboring some serious bias that completely blocks out the ability to reason. Or you are a LE "groupie".

The jury was made up of both.
369 posted on 01/07/2003 7:15:19 PM PST by CW_Conservative
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To: CW_Conservative
It seems Jackie requested Dave go get a ping-pong ball for a little experimentation.

Then Westerfield says "I'm not saying I didn't initiate it..."

370 posted on 01/07/2003 7:16:59 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: Amore
12 search engines! I don't think even dogpile utilizes twelve. That's cool! I'm still glad you mentioned it. It'll help my kiddos for research projects. Thanks again.. :)
371 posted on 01/07/2003 8:51:24 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (''To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society.'' T.R.)
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To: redlipstick
Red, not sure if I want to hear it tonight.. but will read what everyone's written. I'll try.. if not, tomorrow for sure.
372 posted on 01/07/2003 8:53:37 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (''To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society.'' T.R.)
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To: DoughtyOne
My apologies for misunderstanding.

I have to wonder, like ucansee2 mentioned, why wouldn't they use more damning evidence during the trial. I would have to say if there is more damning evidence..I would say that his atty must have done a great job to keep it out.
373 posted on 01/07/2003 8:58:03 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (''To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society.'' T.R.)
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To: Ditter
One thing that seems kind of promising is that brenda said on LKL that he and damon both have regrets...I hope the regrets have to do with being sober and not self-medicating with pot etc anymore.
374 posted on 01/07/2003 9:02:07 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (''To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society.'' T.R.)
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To: redlipstick
Sounds like he thought by you picking out those particular comments..that you must have drawn a conclusion.
375 posted on 01/07/2003 9:05:36 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (''To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society.'' T.R.)
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To: All
Has anyone watched the video yet?
376 posted on 01/07/2003 9:21:19 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (''To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society.'' T.R.)
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To: tetelestai; Ditter; ChiefRon; Starshine; UCANSEE2; Mrs.Liberty; Jaded; skipjackcity; BARLF; ...
If any of you get the chance, be sure to watch the video of his interview. The first thing he admitted to was owning the child porn..and he thought the girls were 13 or 14 yrs old!!! THis guys is a real sleeeeazeball
377 posted on 01/07/2003 9:47:59 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (''To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society.'' T.R.)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Yep, sure sounds like he was a sleazeball alright. Thanks for the post.
378 posted on 01/07/2003 11:33:18 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: tetelestai; Ditter; ChiefRon; Starshine; UCANSEE2; Mrs.Liberty; Jaded; skipjackcity; BARLF; ...
This is just my interpretation of the videos. I'm sure that I've missed something someone else didn't. I would like to get your opinions after you watch the videos.




In the first or second video, dw claims that he was documenting the child porn...but didn't mention documenting it for congress. In addition, he claims he hadn't looked at the porn in about 1 -1/2 yrs. When asked how old he thought the children were, he said he thought they were 13 or 14yrs old.

He told the detectives that he thought he had deleted most files off of the computer, and the zip disks after saving the files to cd's. He thinks he had 3 cd's...but they weren't filled up.

They asked him about whether or not he watched the van dam kids from his bathroom because of the bent screen. He said no.


The detectives brought up what they considered his deviant sex life that his x-wife jackie said they had. He was obviously upset that what he had done 30 yrs ago in bed wiht his first wife was being used against him now.

He asked if the camera was on..and was told yes. He said he had asked the other guys for an attorney but felt like his rights weren't being protected. Something like "dave's rights aren't being protected". He said he felt abused and mistreated cuz he had been there for 48 hrs without a shower or sleep. He wanted an attorney..these guys got up to get him one a few minutes after he asked.

While they were waiting for atty, they had a search warrant for hair and fingernail samples.
The 3rd and 4th video were pretty quick. It is when he asked for a gun to be left behind.

Wrt:locating Danielle...I did not get the impression that he was ready to admit anything on those videos.

My opinion:I think the 2 more valuable pieces of info gathered from that video his 1. his admission to child porn and 2. His request for an attorney. The questions basically stopped after he asked for one. Although they did try a couple more times to get him to tell them were Danielle was located.








DW'S STATUS: He wasn't arrested and held...so were his rights violated?




Legal info

http://www.michigan.gov/documents/September2002_46569_7.PDF

48 hr rule

1991, the SCOTUS held that within 48 hrs of a warrantless arrest there must be a judicial determination of probably cause. If a defendant is arrested and held without a warrant the burden of proof shifts to the govt to prove a bonafide emergency. Being held on weekends does not count as a bonafide emergency.




Article [IV.]
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
379 posted on 01/07/2003 11:33:53 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (''To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society.'' T.R.)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
I believe there may have been some question about police interview tactics. Perhaps an agreement was made not to challenge all evidence if certain parts were withheld. It may also be that certain evidence may have been embarassing to the parents and the police opted not to reveal it all in order to spare them, thinking they had plenty without it.

This may be pretty flimsey, but sometimes things come up that preclude certain evidence from being aired in court.

380 posted on 01/07/2003 11:37:06 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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