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The universe if chock full of such relationships, not only with regard to human life, but also in Physics, physiology, chemistry, etc. Therefore, your argument falls on the evidence of your own life experience. Yes, deny it all you want, but the evidence of your own life and how you live it and relate to the things in the world supports a real universe, not an illusory one. That goes for your pal Berkeley too.

Berkeley's not my pal, he's a rude git. But your response to him is wholly inadequate. You have, longwindedly, in no manner whatsoever supplied evidence that reality must look somehow different--less tangible or detailed or rich--if it was imagined up.

The position you are attempting to argue is the ultimate skepticism that results when men start from themselves and have no infinite reference point. Rationalism only ends in skepticism.

No reference point is an infinite improvement over a reference point you are absolutely sure of, but have no proof pursuasive to skeptics. Popes murder whole peoples because of such cocksurely held "infinite reference points".

Whatever...I see you had no argument for the dichotomy you live. Your own life screams contradiction to your words.

You have, longwindedly, in no manner whatsoever supplied evidence that reality must look somehow different--less tangible or detailed or rich--if it was imagined up.

What I have shown is that all people, including you, must live life as if the universe and all its particulars are real. You can't live otherwise. Your life presents an irreconcilable dichotomy in trying to deny objective reality. Doesn't that bother you at all?

No reference point is an infinite improvement over a reference point you are absolutely sure of, but have no proof pursuasive to skeptics. Popes murder whole peoples because of such cocksurely held "infinite reference points".

This statement merely shows your anti-Christian bias. You are right - the popes committed crimes (I have pointed them out many times to people who revere these self-exalted men) but they are inconsistent with the teachings and example of the founder of Christianity - Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the object of the faith.