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To: A2J
It boggles the mind how this should even NOT be in a textbook on evolution. It's a theory. Why the fear to call it such?
This intellectual dishonesty foisted on our kids needs to end.
While they're at it, comb the books themselves and delete all the subtle references that deceive the readers into believing that evolution is something resembling fact.
29 posted on 12/11/2002 10:15:15 AM PST by ALS
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To: ALS
It's a theory. Why the fear to call it such?

Because the science textbooks are filled completely with theories that are not labelled as such, but only evolution is singled out for the label. The obvious intention here is to inculcate doubt in the minds of the students regarding evolution, as compared to such equally well established models as the atomic theory of matter, or universal gravitation.

34 posted on 12/11/2002 10:28:35 AM PST by Physicist
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To: ALS
I'll allow the disclaimer in bio texts the day the bible states just before Genesis 1:1, "This book contains a bunch of fictional parables and symbolic stories handed down over the millenia. Nothing in this book is intended to be truthful or accepted as fact. Please read it with the understanding that it contains mostly superstition and impossibilities. Create and foster your fantasies at your own risk."

Ok, maybe not so hyperbolic, but maybe... just maybe, you get my point. But I'm sure not.
35 posted on 12/11/2002 10:33:22 AM PST by whattajoke
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To: ALS
"Backers bristled at suggestions that they favor the teaching of creationism, which says that life began about 6,000 years ago in a process described in the Bible's Book of Genesis."

This is why the argument rages on. WHO said that's the definition of "creationism"?
I believe in creationism and if I believed that I would be making up my own theory just as much as the God-haters have made up theirs. You are witnessing a re-creation, not an initial creation.
Anyone with a decent concordance can quickly see that there is no reference to the earth or the universe being created 6,000 years ago. Yes I know so many have been TOLD that, it will cause confusion, and a need to defend what you don't even understand, because none of you have taken the time to check it out. It doesn't matter if you are atheist or fundamentalist. Anyone can still check it out.

The bible clearly says that the earth was perfect in its creation, yet in the 2nd verse of Genesis it says this:

1:2
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

The english translation contains the key to misunderstanding by ALL of you. At first glance it appears to be a continuation of verse 1:
1:1
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

But the translation reveals that it BECAME WASTE AND RUIN.

The word "was" is hyh, which means to BECOME. Become is not the same as was. The word "form" is wht, and it means formlessness, confusion, unreality, emptiness. The word "void" is whb, and it means emptiness, void, waste.

If it was created in perfection, and it BECAME waste and ruin, it follows that there had to be a time period between the two.

Evolution and "creationism" have both become bedfellows in ignorance. Neither has defined the truth. No wonder you fight and bicker.
The evolutionists are happy as pie to allow the religionists to define creation in such a manner it's not only ridiculous, it's blasphemy. The creationists are just as happy to let the evolutionists define science in such a way it's preposterous and the epitome of blind faith.

Go ahead and keep bickering over the utter stupidity of your OWN fallacies in which you find comfort.
Very much like the married couple that aren't happy unless they argue.

children forever
39 posted on 12/11/2002 11:00:09 AM PST by ALS
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