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To: RadioAstronomer
"And why must creation theory by definition be "religious?"

Because it is. "God (or any other higher intelligent power you care to call it) did it" by definition is religious.

Besides supporting yourself with a circular argument, you assume that all notions of intelligence entail religion. That is not true. Religions by definition ascribe certain phemonena to a divine person or persons. Intelligence does not have to ascribe its existence to any kind of personhood, does it?

2,454 posted on 01/03/2003 8:17:32 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Besides supporting yourself with a circular argument, you assume that all notions of intelligence entail religion. That is not true. Religions by definition ascribe certain phemonena to a divine person or persons. Intelligence does not have to ascribe its existence to any kind of personhood, does it?

You accuse Radioastronomer of circular reasoning, then use that same reasoning to refute him. Radioastronomer is a scientist, I assure you circular reasoning is as foreign to him as evolution is to you.

To call it intelligent design, is saying that there is an intelligence of some sort that designed it. Who would this intelligent designer be? Why, looky there, it sure sounds like you're saying that godidit.

If you say that godidit, then you are stating a religious belief, NOT a scientific one. Intelligent design is therefore a religious belief. This is not circular reasoning, it is getting to a conclusion through logic.

If you say intelligent designer, then you are saying that godidit, end of story.
2,458 posted on 01/03/2003 8:32:41 AM PST by Aric2000
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