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To: Condorman
"You have not provided any evidence necessitating the assumption of a designer."

Help me out here. To begin with, can you think of anything in all of existence that has "design" as one of its features? Pick anything you wish.

From my own reason and senses, I am inclined NOT to ascribe design to such things as static, rocks, dirt, water, etc. Their forms appear to me as random, unordered.

I just want to make sure we can at least agree that certain objects around us are more than that; that they give some indication of being formed for a purpose. Like, for example, a pencil. Yes. Do you see any evidence of design in a pencil?

I know I am being overly simplistic, and I wish not to come off as trying to make anyone look foolish. Can you at least accept the fact that "designed things" are present in the universe?

2,080 posted on 01/01/2003 9:35:44 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
On post 2080, you asked Can you at least accept the fact that "designed things" are present in the universe?

I just wanted to mention that at post 324 I offered some testable claims for intelligent design and creation in response to a related challenge from Doctor Stochastic.

2,086 posted on 01/01/2003 10:05:26 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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