Evolution Disclaimer Supported

The Advocate (Baton Rouge) ^ | 12/11/02 | WILL SENTELL

[Condorman]

The statement in question:

"Evolution, the sequence of events by which the world came to be as we see it today, is the central organizing principle of the historical sciences -- biology, geology, and cosmology"

Tribune7: "Evolution" is the noun. A noun is a word used to name a person, animal, place, thing, and abstract idea

"the sequence of events by which the world came to be as we see it today" is an adjective clause. This is a clause which acts as an adjective. An adjective modifies a noun or a pronoun by describing, identifying, or quantifying words

If what you say is true, the the "sequence of events" phrase could be used in the same way as an adjective. For example in the phrase "biological evolution," "biological" is the adjective modifying "evolution," the noun. The statement in question is not structured like that. The "squence of events" phrase is equivallent to the word "evolution," not dependent on it.

Now don't you think you've tortured the English language enough for now?

[Sentis]

...uh---uh...where's scientific truth with the crevo mentality // science out the window ???

[f.Christian]

hey flux polar is back with his plasma toy - - - evocharm science // school // act ! ! !

Give us all a evo magic . . . here it is // goes - - - show ! ! !

[atlaw]

Yes, I'm replying to a placemarker. Only to say that this thread represents a truly amazing evolution of the discussions on FR about evolution. It has become a good-natured, wide ranging, and thoroughly entertaining exchange of ideas, with just the right amount of occasional rant to keep it from becoming a campfire kumbaya (owing in part, no doubt, to the lack of blue spew). It's a great place to take a break during the drudgery of the work day. I hope this represents the future of these discussions.

[f.Christian]

. . . uh - - - uh . . . where's religous liberty with the evo monopoly // religion // TYRANNY in the schools ? ? ?

[Sentis]

I have to say I'm sorry for the occasional personal shots I have taken at the creationists but everytime I point out facts or post arguments that contain scientifically tested material they start name calling. Mainly it was blue boy but even the last day when I posted I got attitude and I was being nice :)

[Sentis]

hey foolish prattle is off and running with his disjointd posts-----religinazi ignorance // school // inaction !!!

Give us all some rigious science...here you go//no---show!!!

[Nebullis]

The clear original intent of the first clause is to prevent government from passing laws that favor religions, & all the 'establishments' of religion.

Emphasis mine. This is key. Discussion of religious beliefs, even the practice of religious precepts in schools, government, or any other public place, if not mandated by law, is within the intent of the first clause.

[f.Christian]

Smoking evolution lowers your discernment and dulls the senses // thinking skills! ! !

[f.Christian]

Your // evolution is the star . . . only of the show - - - move over and give me // Truth some stage time ! ! !

[PatrickHenry]

I hope this represents the future of these discussions.

So do we all. This thread has been just fine. But I fear that with the re-appearance of two posters who have been absent the last couple of days, things may take a sharp turn for the worse. Your first clue will be the sudden appearance of a certain color in the thread. I hope I'm wrong.

[Sentis]

freebasing religion increases your gullibility and unleashes your ignorance // parrot the preacher!!!

[donh]

But seriously Don, pedagogy is not primary,

I entertain serious doubts that pedagogy is not primary in education.

it serves a goal; here that goal is teaching about science. Science is much more than a set of published results, it is a process, a history, a community etc. Learning about the governing paradigms is central, it isn't all that should be taught.

That's history and social studies. If you are going to teach business practices, business practices are what you should teach, not history of accounting and Roman maritime banking law.

[Nebullis]

Aristotle said there had to be a First Cause...

This doesn't explain anything. One of the major concerns most creationists have with the theory of evolution is that it involves undirected mutations. How does the First Cause change that? Extreme determinism?

[donh]

So do we all. This thread has been just fine. But I fear that with the re-appearance of two posters who have been absent the last couple of days, things may take a sharp turn for the worse. Your first clue will be the sudden appearance of a certain color in the thread. I hope I'm wrong.

It occurs to me that the disappearance of Mr. Blue seems to correlate with the banishment to the smokey backroom.

[Sentis]

Your // religion the red headed step child...only it doesn't know---give me more and get it over // Lies are your stage !!!

[Nebullis]

That's history and social studies. If you are going to teach business practices, business practices are what you should teach, not history of accounting and Roman maritime banking law.

Science at the higher levels is taught as edsheppa explains.

[Physicist]

Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines. (OK, so that one's been around!)

Eagles may have trouble with Jets, but they're gonna tear apart the Falcons, and the Jets aren't going to make it past the Raiders in any case.

[f.Christian]

Evo avante garde . . .

what are you goping to get - - -

for basing your whole life on - - -

what hardly any but the die hard few believe in . . .


BANKRUPT - - - broke - - - busted ! ! !

[Sentis]

I have no clue what I am saying to f.christian but it is sort of fun to talk in this dyslexic idiom.