Can You Help America?

Self ^ | 11/30/2002 | B4Ranch

[B4Ranch]

We Need YOUR HELP!

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I Pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

(citizens!)

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The flag is the symbol of our national unity, our national endeavor, our national aspiration.

[DBtoo]

Very well-written piece and I agree with you 100%.

My husband and I lived in Houston which was over-flowing with immigrants (and crime) and we ended up moving to rural Alaska where there are no immigrants, and I doubt any would want to come here because all benefits go to Alaska Natives (Eskimos). This is a very remote area without much infrastructure, which is part of the reason I like it here. Plus there is no crime and it's very beautiful.

I am thinking though our gov. is allowing all these people to flood in because they want them here. I'm not sure why all this is happening, especially in light of 9/11 and terrorist threats. It makes no sense to me at all. But the way I look at it, the America that we once knew is gone forever; this trend will not be reversed. I don't think anything can be done by us regular people though because I believe they want things to be this way, "they" being the Powers that Be.

[185JHP]

Thanks.

[B4Ranch]

When you have the time, please read this entire thread and see if you can't modify some of the ideas already proposed. Some of them are workable.

[DBtoo]

Quite frankly, I don't understand why California hasn't gone broke yet, with the money that state must pay for medical treatment to the poor, shot-up gangsters and illegals, not to mention all the other benefits.

Soon the takers will out-number the givers, and what will happen then?

[Cold Heat]

Maybe powell the fall guy in the admin and is looking like the pussy so that Bush can look touph. You may have a point there.

LOL! We may have found at least some common ground!:-)

[DBtoo]

The language thing was getting really bad in Houston when we left a few years ago. Many job ads there also wanted people who spoke both English and Spanish. People were speaking Spanish all over the place. If we hadn't left, I think I would've ended up wanting to take Spanish lessons just so I could communicate with the many people there who only spoke Spanish. It shouldn't have to be that way though.

[Commie Basher]

Okay, here are some solutions:

(1) Roll back the welfare state, including rules that hospital emergency rooms need not treat every type of illness -- some illegals bring their kids in with minor colds, because a doctor is too expensive, and emergency rooms are "free." But this won't happen, because it'd be deemed racist, and contrary to "compassionate conservatism."

(2) Roll back the welfare state in other areas, such as free education. Again, "racist" and contrary to Bush's "no child left behind" pledge.

(3) Volunteer to teach English as a second language & adult literary, so as to encourage assimilation.

[DBtoo]

I was still a kid in the 70s, but I so remember all the subtle and not so subtle efforts to portray women who chose to stay home and raise their children as not worthy somehow. I thought it was all very unnatural. I have no children, but if I did I would stay home and raise them. I've always thought day-care was cruel, but I know some people have no choice. I remember a commercial for Enjoli perfume which started out, "I can bring home the bacon, fry it up in a pan, and never, ever forget you're a man" or something like that, it was part of that superwomen portrayal which sent the message that women should work outside the home, children or no children.

I have a good friend who got married young, but she never had children and never worked because she didn't have to. Some people gave her a lot of grief over that. She spent a lot of her time on her house, cooking, and taking classes. I feel sorry though for the many women who are put down for not working when they have children. People need to understand that raising children is a very important and time-consuming job!

[Commie Basher]

Is it not so that many young Americans disdain blue collar work? They all want to be rock stars, or work in some glamour industry, or at the very least, be a "beer commercial yuppie" -- one of those clean, attractive people seen on TV commercials, enjoying the good life with friends in gentrified neighborhoods.

[Dajjal]

U.S. Cuts $100 Billion Deal To Buy Great Wall Of China -- To Protect Our Borders!

[MistyCA]

Nope...it shouldn't have been that way. My grandmother came to the US as a child from Norway. She lived in a Norwegian community and never really learned to speak much English until my grandfather died in a lumber accident and she had to go to work to take care of the kids. She did learn, so worked hard, she bought income property and she spent the rest of her life traveling around the world. No one catered to her! No one suggested that she couldn't do it or shouldn't do it (learn to speak English). I bet most of our ancestors were the same way. So what's the deal with Spanish??? The people I know who are here from Mexico want to speak English and assimilate. I am sick and tired of hearing the liberal line about minorities! It's just so much debilitating bull$hit, imo.

[dasein64]

Just finished reading the posts thru 312 and was rather surprised that nobody has suggested a march on Washington. I know that it would be a huge undertaking to organize one but I expect that the turnout would be so large as to get the attention of even the dimmest bulb in the congress. Ping me again when you have it organized and I'll pull on my boots and see you there.

[B4Ranch]

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[B4Ranch]

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[daviddennis]

Much of the political correctness problem here is due to the attitude of the opponents of illegal immigrants.

Many people seem to feel that illegal immigrants are vile scum who break our immigration laws expressly to rape our women, kill our men, and tax our welfare and health care systems. After hearing Michelle Malkin speak, I was struck by her obviously hysterical portrait of illegals, which is completely false for the overwhelming majority of them.

I like illegal immigrants. That's right, I do. They have the guts to flee the disasterous problems in their own country and seek new frontiers in the US. They take enormous risks to come here, walking through deserts, piling into flimsy vehicles, and going for long periods of time without food or water. All so they can work here and send their earnings down to their long-suffering families back in Mexico.

Yes, they are lawbreakers. So are most of us; do you not go 55 miles an hour in a 45 zone much of the time? Do you not arrange your tax return to pay as little tax as possible? Of course you do.

Furthermore, they are defying a faceless, incompetent bureaucracy. Is it any wonder that illegals pour into this country when legal entry is so difficult? Michelle Malkin, in her speech, commented that it was not fair for her to have to go through these bureaucratic hoops, while illegals can just hop on a bus and come back here. When farmers defy unfair laws, you criticise the laws, not the farmers. Could the same not be true here?

I am not saying illegals are perfect, but they do the jobs most of us don't want to do, and they work hard and do them well. From what I have seen, most of our native entry-level workers are apathetic, spoiled and rebellious; Mexicans come to do our work, and don't complain.

Now, Michelle Malkin has some valid points. Should we reform our visa system to control entry by terrorists more carefully? Sure we should. Should we amend our "catch and release" policy so people who've committed serious crimes are not dumped across the border, soon to return? Of course.

But should we write a book implying that illegals are evil criminals who should be ejected out of this country as soon as humanly possible? And we should spend billions and billions of dollars on efforts to close our borders? I think not.

Why not?

Because it looks a lot like a war against hispanics, even those who are in the country legally. Those here in California will not vote for a Republican for as long as this issue is prominent. What you're going to do is split the Republican party over this issue, and ensure the Democrats a permanent lock on the Statehouse.

More to the point, all of this hateful talk about illegals strikes me as UnAmerican, contrary to the principles we hold dear. Illegals are trying to better themselves, to find a better, fuller, more satisfying life.

Remember the sign on the Statue of Liberty:

Bring us
your tired,
your poor,
your huddled masses
Yearning to break free ...

The hatred I hear in your voices for illegals will force everyone who is an immigrant, is the child of an immigrant, or is friends with an immigrant to vote against you. If fully expressed, as you folks seem to want, it will create 90-10 margins for the Democrats among Hispanic voters, and our party will be finished. Frankly, it appalls me that people I generally like and respect are listening seriously to this kind of talk.

Before I close this up, I should respond to Michelle Malkin's point about Al Queda and immigration law. Is it true the Al Queda members could flood into this country from Mexico if our borders are not closed?

Yes, it is true.

But I feel we have better ways of catching them. Hit their money trail, for example. Or check anyone who has contact with suspected Al Queda cells and form a pattern. This investigation method has the massive advantage of only affecting the civil rights of potential Al Queda members, not all tourists. It will spot Al Queda members already here - and we have reason to believe most of their network is already in place. And it also has the advantage of being much, much cheaper. So don't consider the Al Queda connection a reason to majorly inconvenience everyone who ever enters this country from another nation.

I love Free Republic, because it symbolizes, well, a free republic. If we want to close our borders, we are going to make this more into a police state ... and in the end, this is not in the interests of anyone on this thread.

D

PS I am pinging some of my friends on Free Republic to respond to this message. Note that this does not indicate whether I believe they would support or oppose me on this topic, which I know is explosive around here.

[lakey]

"....the stupidty of the Woman's movement that was almost pushing me out the door to go to work!"

My memories also. I can remember knowing how women were being suckered. Prices of everything would rise, because there would be more disposable income. Government & businesses keep track of such things, & they only let the little guy have just so much of his earnings.

And I worked in both big & small businesses & knew that most family budgets come to depend on two incomes & the woman is trapped unless the couple makes a big effort to save one of the incomes.

[farmfriend]

Ok, I haven't read all 300 some odd posts. The original post talked about illegal immigration. I like that the militias have started patrolling the boarder but there is danger in that. A march on Washington would be difficult to organize but that could be funneled through the National Grange (the only privately owned building with the White House complex). I think changing the constitution so that kids born to illegal are not automatically citizens would go a long way.

[lakey]

Thanks for your effort. This immigration thing has gotten out of hand. But we have a pro-immigration president, who doesn't like criticism of his policies.

I hated NAFTA from the start, & go out of my way to speak out about it wherever I am - grocery & department stores, etc. On two occasions recently, I ordered some items from catalogs - one very expensive, knowing full well that I would probably send them back. Sure, I have to pay the postage & handling, but it feels good to write a comment on why I'm returning the merchandise.

Maybe they'll get the idea one of these days...Americans can do it better!