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Why men should be able to sue women who lie about who's the daddy
JWR ^ | Nov. 27 , 2002 / 22 Kislev, 5763 | Dan Abrams

Posted on 11/29/2002 7:08:00 AM PST by Balto_Boy

On Friday, Nebraska's highest court ruled that a man whose ex-wife may have lied to him about being the father of their child cannot sue the woman for fraud and emotional distress. Why not?

IN ANY other realm of the law this would be a classic case of fraud. Robert Day had already been divorced from his wife for six years when he realized he was out of town when she conceived. A DNA test proved with 100 percent certainty that Adam wasn't his. Well Robert Day alleged that mom lied about her due date to fool him.

He had paid child support, medical expenses and even half of his wife's employment-related daycare costs after their divorce. She's since remarried. The court cited a number of psychological studies about the importance of parents bonding with children and held "In effect Robert is saying he's not my son. I want my money back" and that the lawsuit "Has the effect of saying I wish you'd never been born to a child."

No, it says "You lied to me, I want my money back," and the lawsuit has the effect of saying "I wish you hadn't lied and now hope you'll go after the real father for the money you snookered me from me." Look, these cases are difficult and different. If the result would be that the child would suddenly go hungry or lose his home, those special circumstances should matter, but that should be the exception.

The court's opinion focuses solely on public policy. How is it good public policy to encourage a philandering woman to lie? Why shouldn't she at least have to seek out the real father to make him pay?


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To: tallhappy
"We all have that visceral knee-jerk reaction."

Well said. And don't let your teeth get too close to your jerky knees.

261 posted on 11/30/2002 9:30:39 AM PST by Enterprise
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To: BuddhaBoy
I have told you already, boy. You are a coward and a bully.

You also are one sad puppy with a serious lack of any intelligence and insight.

Obviously you are delusional as well.

Perhaps in time you'll grow up. Right now you are a mess of insecurities, conflicting emotions, anger and helplessness.

These threads on subjects like this defintitely show we have much too many broken men in our society now.

If you guys could only see yourselves for your pathetic brokenness, you'd give up your irrational pride and stop feeling sorry for yourselves.

262 posted on 11/30/2002 9:37:33 AM PST by tallhappy
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To: Enterprise
Do you feel broken? Beat down? Oppressed? A victim of society and the state?

Well, welcome to the club. The liberal victocrat club.

It'll explain away all your troubles and problems, let you lay blame on others for your mistakes, and shirk your responsibilities, all the while giving you a contrived but seemingly well rounded view of the world to validate all your irresponsible actions and selfish deeds.

Victims, it's not your fault. It never is. Take heart, we are there for you.

From, your supporters, the Democratic Party.
We thank you for your support.


263 posted on 11/30/2002 9:43:21 AM PST by tallhappy
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To: tallhappy
re, the boy: Considering how much "milk" he gets for free, and how often he boasts about how easy the dairy job is...you'd think he'd be happy? Instead, he frets endlessly that some chick'll trap him, and that there's all these chicks out there with trappin' on their minds. Answer: get the ole vas clipped.
264 posted on 11/30/2002 9:44:50 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: BuddhaBoy
Get over it, your nonsense was already discredited here.

Here? Interesting choice of words, boy.

Something is either discredited or not. There's no "here" about it.

Except of course in the liberal whiner world view you wallow in where what's true for you might not be true for me etc...

You really have no idea what a pathetic broken down liberal victocrat you are.

265 posted on 11/30/2002 9:46:43 AM PST by tallhappy
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To: tallhappy
"I have told you already"

Yes, you have told him before just as you tell everyone who disagrees with you. Even if you were right (which your not), you are patheticly abusive.

266 posted on 11/30/2002 9:48:18 AM PST by babygene
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To: Mamzelle
I think getting the ol vaz clipped is a reference he wouldn't understand. He ain't too bright that one.

Take care, you've given me a nice smile.

267 posted on 11/30/2002 9:49:00 AM PST by tallhappy
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To: babygene
you are patheticly abusive.

I always have to laugh at comments like this. The lack of self-awareness on your part (and your fellow boys) is literally laughable.

You and the other baby boys come in and heap abuse all over people, especially those you think of as weaker.

Then cry like babies about abuse.

It is a howler.

Like all bullys, you cry and whine when someone stands up to you and meets you at your level.

You understand me?

268 posted on 11/30/2002 9:52:52 AM PST by tallhappy
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To: tallhappy
You dont know when to quit, but I guess you cant that the fact that you embarassed yourself here. I'll let you have the last word, because you obviously need it.

But you're an idiot, and nothing can change that.

269 posted on 11/30/2002 9:53:27 AM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: Mamzelle
I am clipped, genius. You obviosly cant read. I am safe, but I fret for my brothers in crime. Get a clue.
270 posted on 11/30/2002 10:02:09 AM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: babygene; BuddhaBoy
>>She has recently come to the realization that the biological clock is running out for her to ever raise a family<<

I was single from age 42-46. I am a more or less successful man.

Before I married a 26 year old, I dated many, many women in the above-referenced situation.

I actually had women come up to me and ask me if I liked them, and if I wanted children-yes, in one breath.

What I don't understand is how it is possible to "come to the realization" that the mid-30s are too late after graduating from high school. This sounds to me like complaining that you didn't ever hear that smoking was bad for you, or that you didn't know that a diet of big Macs and fries could lead to obesity.

Most women in their 20s are more fertile, more attractive, and almost all of them are way, way, way less bitter than women in their mid to late 30s.

Athough there are conspicuous exceptions, any women who is planning to marry and have more than one child should have a few prospects by age 22 and should be married and pregnant by age 27 at the latest.

It's hard to understand why so many women today don't get it.

271 posted on 11/30/2002 10:03:23 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: tallhappy
That was so beautiful. It brings tears to my steely blue Republican eyes. We must create an award for the RAT crybaby victims. Maybe a bronzed dead RAT on top of a gilded cow pasture patty. The RATTIE award for the most deserving RAT snivler. So hard to choose though because there are so many deserving RAT jerks to choose from.
272 posted on 11/30/2002 11:01:22 AM PST by Enterprise
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To: Jim Noble
It's hard to understand why so many women today don't get it.

They dont get it, because they bought the Feminist's bill of goods about "having it all". They think that by the time they have gotten their Master's and SUV, that we are still going to be waiting around for them. The fact that they had the time to finish school is usually a testement to their relative attractiveness anyway.

So, here they come, briefcases in hand, ready to spawn, and not taking no for an answer, and they are like Salmon swimming upstream. Desparate, and in a hurry to procreate, so as to fill up that basket of fulfillment that Oprah promised them.

A man need do nothing but wait for them to show up, loaded for bear, at any venue, with their radar on maximum, searching for "Mr Goodjob".

Easy pickings for any man with stability and a nice car; you only have to be careful about giving them your address, because once they see your house, they are headed for Home Depot for nesting materials.

273 posted on 11/30/2002 11:28:00 AM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: Jim Noble
No offense, Jim, but there's an old saying: "Nothing makes a greater fool of an older man than a younger woman." I wish you luck. You're gonna need it when you're 65 and she's 45.
274 posted on 11/30/2002 11:34:19 AM PST by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000
Hey, if our buddy Jim is well off, he can trade her at 45 for another gal in her mid 20's.

She on the other hand, will be wanting that first face lift right around then, on his Visa, so she's behave.

275 posted on 11/30/2002 11:37:11 AM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: BuddhaBoy
>>She on the other hand, will be wanting that first face lift right around then, on his Visa, so she's behave<<

Aw, c'mon dude-at least you could wish me luck...

276 posted on 11/30/2002 11:52:41 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: Jim Noble
Oh, that's a given dude. Any married man needs LOTS of luck. I wish you the best. But if the best wont do, then I wish you a 19 year old college freshman next time around with big hooters and a trust fund.
277 posted on 11/30/2002 11:55:40 AM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: Balto_Boy
Women who do this are, in my opinion, criminals. If found out, they should be prosecuted and put in jail. If a woman doesn't know who the father is, she should say she doesn't know instead of trying to save her "reputation" and ruin some guy's life.
278 posted on 11/30/2002 12:11:47 PM PST by Vicki
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To: BuddhaBoy
I wish you a 19 year old college freshman next time around with big hooters and a trust fund.

LOL - I seems to almost exclusively date women in the 19-21 year range. I'm 24 and in professional school and my friends and classmates always wonder why. My question to them is "why not"? The older a woman gets the crazier she gets. Some of the girls in my class are damn near certifiable, and they wonder why I won't date anyone from school. Forget that. I'll get serious after I finish my training when I'll be in a position to pick and choose.

279 posted on 11/30/2002 12:37:21 PM PST by realpatriot71
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To: realpatriot71
My age limit is 25, but I'm 37.

I insist on well regulated estrogen. Once that hormone starts fluctuating in women (26-27) their behavior becomes too flaky to manage.

At 30, you might as well lock them up.

Now, watch as the harpi's desend on me to deny it.

280 posted on 11/30/2002 12:41:51 PM PST by BuddhaBoy
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