[discostu]

Could have fooled me. That's litterally the first time I've seen you say something nice about any Mexican at all. That's pretty close to my position, except I don't see an invasion of any type by any subgroup. Most crimes in this country are still being committed by blacks. Mexicans are by and large contributing well to our culture, and as a minority group in America are one of the better behaved.

When I see that Mexico is putting a consulate in Indianapolis my conclusion is that Indies major push to have year round tourism (they've built a kick ass new convention center and have been stealing conventions from all over the place) is working. Tourist places are a natural gravity for consulates, they go places where a lot of your citizens are going, because they exist to help your citizens in foreign countries.

[FITZ]

That's pretty close to my position

Where I live ---closer to the border than you are --actually I'm right on the border there is more an invasion because Americans (anglo and hispanic) are leaving the area and people from Juarez are moving in. They'll even complain that first they came to Juarez --from some place else and then Juarez got bad. Then they moved over to El Paso and now El Paso's bad so they don't know where to go next. It's like a never ending cycle, as Mexico moves north it's problems follow. To me it's time everything stop, make some long overdue reforms and get things headed in the right direction.

Also I see too much effects from the illegal drug trade to believe Mexican society will benefit us much in any way. That doesn't mean the guy working all day picking chiles and onions is a very bad type but the housing projects here are also filled with many more welfare types who have come directly from Mexico. I guess I just live where the welfare ones seem to outnumber the farmworker ones.