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Free Republic mentioned in "Chronicles" magazine article.
Chronicles, A Magazine of American Culture ^ | Dec 1, 2002 | Sean Scallon

Posted on 11/21/2002 12:16:16 AM PST by Marine Inspector

PALEOCONSERVATIVES often refer to "the limits of permissible dissent" in describing the struggle to hold on to their views in the realms of the media and academia against the censure of both the left and the "mainstream" right. Now, this struggle has been extended into the realm of the internet, the supposed last frontier of unregulated speech and capitalism. Indeed, we may be witnesses, as Frederick Jackson Turner would say, to the closing of this frontier, not just because of the collapse of the dot-com economy but because of the new limits imposed on speech and content, which will only become more pronounced as the War on Terrorism progresses.

In 1996, Fresno, California, resident and internet surfer Jim Robinson had a problem: His posts on Prodigy message hoards and chat rooms, particularly his strong criticisms of President Bill Clinton, were being censored by Prodigy's administrators. So he started his own web site—Free Republic (www.freerepublic.com).

Free Republic was more than just an ordinary message board in the early settlement of the internet. Surfers could post whole articles from publications and make them topics of discussion and debate. And it was more than just another chat room. Free Republic’s likeminded members could be connected from across the country to organize activist projects and events. ln 1998, when many Republicans wanted to ignore Kenneth Starr’s report on the Clinton scandals rather than deal with its charges, Free Republic members (or "Freepers," as they call themselves) lit up the congressional phones and organized demonstrations that influenced Republicans in the House to vote for articles of impeachment. And it was the Freepers, not the GOP, who organized the demonstrations of conservatives down in Florida during the 2000 presidential vote recount.

Over 60,000 people have been registered members of Free Republic, the largest conservative-oriented website in the world. Members are a diverse lot: independents, Republicans, libertarians, (large "L" and small), neocons, paleocons, Buchanan Brigaders, Keyes supporters and everything in between. Even such prominent pundits as Justin Raimondo, Ann Coulter, Barbara Olson, and Lucianne Goldberg (known by her Freeper handle, "Trixie") have made frequent posts.

As in any frontier boomtown, however, with rapid growth came predictable problems. Some of the articles posted on the site came from racist or antisemitic web sites. Conspiracy theorists also made use of Free Republic. Leftists began to infiltrate the site, posting articles or posing as conservatives to act as agents provocateurs. "Vanity posts" became more frequent, and flame wars among members became more intense, as the site split into factions during the 2000 presidential election. Overall, civility degenerated. Some members became concerned that Free Republic had become a virtual hangout for kooks. Matters came to a head in early 2000 when Robinson (or "JimRob") speculated on George W. Bush’s connection to the airport in Mena, Arkansas where drug and gun-running allegedly took place during the 1980’s. Matt Drudge then dropped Free Republic’s link from the Drudge Report, and Goldberg took 2.000 members with her to start her own Lucianne.com.

Robinson decided to clean up his website and, like any good sheriff, deputized a posse of site moderators to remove offensive posts, threads, and articles and to ban those who posted them. But they did not stop there. Soon, they had banned the posting of any articles from certain websites that they deemed taboo, such as VDare.com ("too divisive"), LewRockwell.com, DixieNet.org (the League of the South’s website) , and the Free State Project’s website (www.FreeStateProject.org)

It would be easy to conclude that Robinson and his monitors simply went overboard in an effort to clean up the excesses of Free Republic, but there is more to it than that.

Because of its significant growth, Free Republic costs $240,000 annually to maintain. As a non-profit, Free Republic depends on donors, large and small, for its survival. No doubt the embarrassment of being dropped from the Drudge Report and Goldberg’s public break with the site concerned Robinson, and lie feared that funds might dry up if his site were perceived to he on the fringe. In addition, the Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times sued Free Republic for copyright infringement. The case was settled out of court. It was only natural for Robinson and his site administrators to want to look good for prospective donors.

With so many posters banned, the diversitv of thought on Free Republic has been reduced to the musings of neoconservatives, Zionists, Republicans who act is if Free Republic were an annex of GOP headquarters, those who consider George W. Bush a demigod and offer daily prayers to him, and other sycophants and cheerleaders, Robinson has made it clear where he stands: "I see that the only Party capable of blocking arid defeating the evil Democrats is the Republican Party. I see that many races are so close hat as little as a one percent siphon of conservative votes to a third party could be the difference between success and failure. I see allowing a Democrat to remain in power when it could have been prevented as a triumph of evil."

Many banned Freepers have turned to such sites as Liberty Post (www.libertypost.org) and Liberty Forum (www.libertyforum.org) where members can post articles from anywhere and comment without interference from the thought police or fear of Siberian banishment. But Free Republic will still remain the 800-pound gorilla of conservative websites for some time, just as National Review has been for conservative magazines, despite being watered down. Frontiers, whether on land or in cyberspace, cannot survive when developers start plotting out the fencerows.

—Sean Scallon


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To: Marine Inspector
The rules change like the wind around here.

I've been here as long as anyone.

Seems to me it's pretty consistent.

181 posted on 11/21/2002 5:02:45 AM PST by IncPen
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To: Jim Robinson
I lurked on FR for several years before lightly jumping in 2 years ago. In concept, there is nothing like FR on the planet, and I have you to thank. I am always amazed at the quality of the analysis, depth of conviction and plain fun that freepers are masters at. I can't get through a session of reading posts without "rolling on the floor" and laughing constantly. If Jay Leno were to jump in, he'd barely qualify as average! Thank you for the great service you're doing for your country.
182 posted on 11/21/2002 5:13:06 AM PST by passive1
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To: Roscoe
LP is a small site where a tiny group of anti-Freepers hang out.

You might want to amend that statement. I post there and here. Am I an anti-Freeper then, too?

183 posted on 11/21/2002 5:20:37 AM PST by riley1992
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To: Jim Robinson
Way to go!!!

Why are the anti-everything crowd so put out about FR? They do have any number of the other sites where they have ever so much more fun because they can use bad language, fight, spit, battle, sling insults and mud. Seems they would be thrilled as they are getting exactly what they want.

Why is it so horrible to like this president and want to put the democrats out of power? Is it because their biggest joy is in trying to intimidate Bush supporters?

It won't work. We like Bush, we trust Bush and we want to help turn this country around. We have as much right to do that as they do to hate America, hate Bush, hate the government, and love causing any manner of dissension.
184 posted on 11/21/2002 5:30:57 AM PST by ClancyJ
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To: Mo1; Marine Inspector
Here's what happens to 'whistle-blowers' in the U.S. Customs Dept., MO1.

Customs whistleblower sues treasury secretary

This agent shared info with the DEA that led to a huge cocaine smuggling bust and was prevented from reporting an illegal alien that she caught with $30,000, taped to his belly, to security for the airline he worked for. It was the second time this illegal alien had been caught doing the same thing!

She hasn't worked since. Would you 'blow the whistle'?

185 posted on 11/21/2002 5:47:13 AM PST by 4Freedom
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To: Marine Inspector
Love Chronicles, Love this article, love FR.

This too shall pass.
186 posted on 11/21/2002 5:51:46 AM PST by JohnGalt
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To: Jim Robinson
Thanks for a good job. We do not need to have lunatics here. It is a free country, they can go somewhere else.
Free Republic is the best!
187 posted on 11/21/2002 6:34:23 AM PST by bulldogs
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To: Jim Robinson
What do they mean - that there are no lunatics on this site?

I am insulted.
I am outraged.
188 posted on 11/21/2002 6:53:17 AM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: nopardons
Conaf is where the anti freepers hang out( they hate LP too ,bad people) LP has its fair share of banned freepers but I wouldn't describe it as an anti freeper site. A lot of the anti freepers get banned because they are real real a******( and its hard to get banned from LP unless you try really hard at it).
189 posted on 11/21/2002 7:08:30 AM PST by weikel
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To: Mo1
Mornin' Mo,

From the article/letter to editor:

"Matt Drudge then dropped Free Republic’s link from the Drudge Report, and Goldberg took 2.000 members with her to start her own Lucianne.com."

I notice the author left out the mass exodus from Lucianne to Free Republic of you people/now freeople in June 2001.

Hope you have a great day!
190 posted on 11/21/2002 7:09:33 AM PST by Quilla
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To: Marine Inspector
What a great article! Thanks for posting. It's always good when they're talking about you.

It's disconcerting reading most of these responses. They don't correlate with the fact that this article speaks well of our site.

I consider you an asset to this site and am pleased to see you posting again.

Carry on Marine!
191 posted on 11/21/2002 7:11:40 AM PST by Auntie Mame
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To: Marine Inspector; All
In 1996, Fresno, California, resident and internet surfer Jim Robinson had a problem: His posts on Prodigy message hoards and chat rooms, particularly his strong criticisms of President Bill Clinton, were being censored by Prodigy's administrators.

Ah! YESSS!!!

Those were the days, with the likes of posters like Missy Kelly, Karen Bixman (of UN National Park grabbing fame), Sydonia Dove, and even British journalists like Ambrose Evans-Pritchard.

Alas, all good things come to an end, eventually...my ersatz access via a 286 clone running DOS on Prodigy among them. The EGA Monitor gave up the Ghost the VERY DAY Drudge did the Siren thing with an obscure intern named Monica.

Still, 40 Reams of printouts (I didn't have access to Mass Storage then) fully documented OKC (American Reichstag), WACO, FBI files, etc., etc., etc., etc., etc.

And, now we have Little Tommy Daschle complaining that, in essence, the mean Prodigy cum Freepers are beginning to learn how to play Football...

192 posted on 11/21/2002 7:15:51 AM PST by Lael
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To: Marine Inspector
The title of this thread is incredibly misleading. Free Republic is occassionally mentioned in articles and I always enjoy reading about it in the mainstream. Yet the posted material is in actuality an piece written entirely about Free Republic. I'm curious as to why you chose to highlight it in this manner.
193 posted on 11/21/2002 7:20:11 AM PST by Quilla
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To: Marine Inspector; TLBSHOW; ThePythonicCow; Roscoe; nopardons
I went over to the Chronicles Magazine web site and took a look around. I'm guessing that this article is from the December 2002 issue.

Most magazines do not web publish their articles until a month after the print edition is mailed out. And many do not put all their articles on their website even then. After all, why would the subscribers buy the cow if the milk is free?

So my guess is that if they put it on the web site at all, it won't be until January.

194 posted on 11/21/2002 7:23:28 AM PST by malakhi
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To: Marine Inspector
Just read through the hundred and fifty or so comments on your post from Chronicles. Interesting to read, and somewhat disconcerting, as it shows that some of those on the Right have no qualms using the attack techniques of the Left when they read something they don't like.

For those unaware of Chronicles, you might edify yourself by subscribing, as it's one of the finest cultural and political magazines around. Moreover, if you knew the magazine then you'd also know that the Scallon article was not a "Letter to the Editor"--each month Chronicles runs a few short bits after its correspondence section on a variety of topics.

The personal attacks on Marine Inspector based on his purported agenda, his past crimes and misdemeanors, etc. are also a hallmark of the Left. Now, I don't know MI from a hole in the wall, and I don't care. But even if he was a screaming idiot, that has precious little to do with the merits of the Chronicles post.

Finally, the criticisms of FreeRepublic in the Chronicles piece are muted at best. Why does even the slightest criticism of JimRob or FreeRepublic result in such dramatic and heated flaming? Thin-skinned overreactions are what THEY do best--the Hillarys, the Jesses, the NOWs. It's a mystery when one sees us doing it amongst ourselves.

195 posted on 11/21/2002 7:35:25 AM PST by d-back
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To: Jim Robinson
"Congratulations to all who made this historical event possible!"

Thank You, Jim ... for being a beacon and a rock amidst all the shifting media sand dunes.
196 posted on 11/21/2002 7:49:13 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: Marine Inspector
Given that the choice was between a fast-growing Big Brother government run by Bush & Co., and a fast-growing Big Brother government run by Gore/Clinton & Co., I have no trouble regarding the outcome as a huge victory.

I think most of us on FR would like to see a smaller, less intrusive government than the Republicans currently promote, but we also recognize that it wasn't possible to achieve that in this election cycle. The best we can do is gradually keep moving the arguments between the parties further and further in the right direction. That has been accomplished for this election cycle; now we have to get to work and push it further in the next one.
197 posted on 11/21/2002 7:55:26 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: nopardons; Marine Inspector
No, you wrote it in an ambiguous fashion. How Clintonian of you.

Sorry, you don't get off that easily. The "blatant lie" could not be produced, so now you change it around to being ambiguous and implied. You're wrong. It's ok. You can admit it. It won't hurt.

198 posted on 11/21/2002 8:13:28 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: angelo
funny that was just what the writer said when they put this up at LP! Hummm
199 posted on 11/21/2002 8:49:24 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: d-back
I see. Even though it was a letter in the Correspondence section it wasn't just a letter, it was a special letter.

The original poster called it an article.



200 posted on 11/21/2002 8:59:02 AM PST by Roscoe
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