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To: Starwind
coming historical event??? I guess the future just isn't what it used to be.

What I mean is, that although the coming of Christ, the resurrection of all the dead, and the final judgment bring this NT age to a close, and in that sense they may be outside of history, nonetheless they are real events in time and space.

I also believe that when this age closes we will be ushered into the age of the ages into the new creation wherein dwells rightouesness. I don't know how everthing fits together, but Paul says in I Cor 15 that our tranlation into immortality will be instantaneous and in Romans 8 makes a direct connection between the renewal of creation and the redemption of our bodies. So I believe we will move rather quickly from one stage history into the next.

851 posted on 11/29/2002 6:41:13 PM PST by gdebrae
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To: gdebrae
...Paul says in I Cor 15 that our tranlation into immortality will be instantaneous and in Romans 8 makes a direct connection between the renewal of creation and the redemption of our bodies. So I believe we will move rather quickly from one stage history into the next.

Correspondng to 1 Cor 15, Paul also says in 1 Thes 4:15-17 that the dead in Christ and those alive in Christ will rise (consecutively and cotemporaneously it would seem), the unsaved are specifically omitted, which sharply contrasts with only the dead standing at the white throne judgement, and your intrepretation of John 5:29.

1 Cor 15:52 and more specifically 1 Thes 4:15-17 at least reference how the physcially living and saved get raised. Nowhere in Rev 20 or John 5:29 is this mentioned, and there seems to be an intervening period (Daniel's 70th week - in whole or in part, plus the 1000 year millenium) that separates the raising of the saved to life from the raising of the dead to condemnation.

854 posted on 11/29/2002 8:08:34 PM PST by Starwind
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