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To: #3Fan
Actually massacres have biblical precedent.

So you are saying that Christianity is no different than Islam?

God ordained the state, not I

God recommended against a state but in fact asked the Jews what kind of government they preferred and then allowed them a King.

Even God acknowledged that governments received their power from man's consent. If the men in government go against God's law then that government ceases to be legitimate. Your position would logically follow that Hitler's government was ordained by God.

434 posted on 11/02/2002 11:24:47 AM PST by Demidog
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To: Demidog
So you are saying that Christianity is no different than Islam?

Christianity is true, Islam was written by one man with no prophecy. Only religions that have true prophesies have a possibilty of being true religions.

God recommended against a state but in fact asked the Jews what kind of government they preferred and then allowed them a King.

Yes, God wanted to be their king but the people wanted a man king. So God ordained Israel's kings. Sometimes He even ordained bad kings, the people get what they deserve. David would not kill Saul because even though Saul was possessed and was trying to kill David, David knew Saul was ordained. Civil authority is ordained now, as Romans proves.

Even God acknowledged that governments received their power from man's consent. If the men in government go against God's law then that government ceases to be legitimate. Your position would logically follow that Hitler's government was ordained by God.

If you'll look at this thread, you'll see several times that I said civil authority is legitimate if it follows God's laws. Hitler did not follow God's laws. American civil authority follows God's laws. Even so, Hitler was leader of the Germans, not of Christian America. God saw to it I was born American, not German. I had no worry of having to support Hitler's crimes. God decides who's souls get put in what situations.

436 posted on 11/02/2002 5:49:29 PM PST by #3Fan
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