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To: #3Fan
But the rate of addiction is much higher for hard drugs. All my friends drink, none have killed anyone or been killed. A few of my friends have done drugs, most lost their jobs, one was killed by a dealer. A million people have similar stories as mine. I vote what I know and that's what I know.

Your friend who was killed by a dealer... he wasn't gunned down in one of those notorious street battles between employees of Rite-Aid and Wal-Mart Pharmacy fighting over Viagra turf, was he? Didn't think so.

Not to be flippant with the memories of the dead, but realize this: Opium was legal (a dutied import, on the regular customs schedule) in the US until 1905 (shortly after Governments began pushing heroin as a "cure" for morphine addiction... oh, great). But legal Pharmacists are not widely known for shooting eachother, or customers, over "turf".

You know it. So... "vote what you know"?

You don't believe in breaking in someone's home to enforce the law. What if you lived in the middle of a city and a neighbor was keeping a hydrogen bomb in his garage and said he was going to set it off. Should the police be allowed to break in this person's home and get the bomb?

What if your neighbor owned a gun?

If he said he was going to shoot you, then the Cops should take an interest.
If he didn't, the cops shouldn't.

Now, of course, as concerns nuclear weapons... I believe that a man should have a sufficient "fence" around his property to contain negative externalities... which renders the "private possession of nuclear weapons" unjustifiable for anyone with less than, say, ten thousand square miles of barren desert at a minimum.

However, the Government doesn't necessarily see it that way. Libertarians have demonstrated this... at least one libertarian has previously declared his intent to build a neutron bomb in downtown New York City (just to see what the Government would do).

Guess what... The Government sent them instructions -- and tried to subsidize them.

A bomb holder's problem's wouldn't be confined to his home and I feel that too many drug user's problems spill out into the street. I vote accordingly. You feel drug users do a good job of keeping their problems to themselves and you can vote accordingly. We agree to disagree, don't we. I went through this exact same stuff in 1200 posts in two days a month ago and don't feel like going through it again. If you want to see everything I wrote, I'll direct you to those threads if I can find them. Only 1% of the population want to legalize hard drugs and so this argument isn't worth a lot of my time. You're not going to get your way anytime soon. And it's things like this that make me never want to be part of the Libertarian party nor want to be around them if they were to run their own state or nation. Sorry.

Majority Vote does not define Truth.

Try as I might, I can't make myself see...

...as being something I could morally Pray to God.

And if I as a Christian can't morally Pray for it...
...Then I as a Christian I can't morally Vote for it.

As always, JMHO. Best, OP

187 posted on 10/24/2002 8:38:26 PM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Your friend who was killed by a dealer... he wasn't gunned down in one of those notorious street battles between employees of Rite-Aid and Wal-Mart Pharmacy fighting over Viagra turf, was he? Didn't think so.

She was killed. There was no reason to do it, she was 24 years old. He was simply wigged out on meth.

Not to be flippant with the memories of the dead, but realize this: Opium was legal (a dutied import, on the regular customs schedule) in the US until 1905 (shortly after Governments began pushing heroin as a "cure" for morphine addiction... oh, great). But legal Pharmacists are not widely known for shooting eachother, or customers, over "turf".

They weren't fighting over turf. He was simply wigged out on drugs. His drug using dad had killed a young girl a few years before and I guess he wanted to know what it felt like and being high on meth reduces one's inhibitions.

You know it. So... "vote what you know"?

I will and I know that hard drugs are too addictive to too many people to be legal.

What if your neighbor owned a gun?

If my neighbor threatened to shoot me with his gun for no reason then he should be arrested for that.

If he said he was going to shoot you, then the Cops should take an interest. If he didn't, the cops shouldn't.

My neighbors have guns, that's fine with me. Guns don't make one crazy like hard drugs do.

Now, of course, as concerns nuclear weapons... I believe that a man should have a sufficient "fence" around his property to contain negative externalities... which renders the "private possession of nuclear weapons" unjustifiable for anyone with less than, say, ten thousand square miles of barren desert at a minimum.

I feel the same about drugs. Since that's not possible then keep them illegal.

However, the Government doesn't necessarily see it that way. Libertarians have demonstrated this... at least one libertarian has previously declared his intent to build a neutron bomb in downtown New York City (just to see what the Government would do).

Figures.

Guess what... The Government sent them instructions -- and tried to subsidize them.

They saw him as a joke.

Majority Vote does not define Truth.

But it's the law.

188 posted on 10/24/2002 9:33:42 PM PDT by #3Fan
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