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I think I will re-enter the thread at this point only long enough to point out that your counterargument against the Sola Scriptura position is nonsense.

2 Timothy 2:16 definitely does present the idea of the sufficiency of Scriptures--by the very way it segues into the very next verse.

The Scriptures are INSPIRED, Dave. This is WHY the Scriptures are profitable for the things which Paul catalogues as a compendium of the excellencies of Scripture with regard to life and godliness. And this fact of the Bible's inspiration is WHY verses 16 and 17 constitute a single sentence. My goodness, it should be PATENTLY OBVIOUS to a regenerate individual that Paul is telling us that the Scriptures are inspired SO AS TO MAKE THE MAN OF GOD COMPLETE AND FULLY FITTED FOR EVERY GOOD WORK.

That is a pretty danged strong affirmation of the sufficiency of the Scriptures!

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I will not discuss the Scriptures any more with you. You can't get even simple stuff straight. You confess with your lips a doctrine of the inspiration of the Scriptures, but your heart is far from the God of Truth Who authored the Bible.

This is why you have a notion that you are supposed to "sort of trust" the Bible, but not REALLY trust the Bible.

Dave, I'm afraid that you are in unfathomably serious trouble. The doctrine of reprobation is true. And RCism has become one of the instruments of reprobation. RCism tends only to BLOCK saving faith.

The rest of your post was just as bad. (I'll let others respond to it if they care to do so.)

That is a pretty danged strong affirmation of the sufficiency of the Scriptures!

In your mind. You do realize there is a difference between what Scripture means, and what any given person thinks it means?

The bottom line is that you can only assert that yoru interpretation is the "true" one, and you take as offensive anyone who disagrees with you.

2 tim 3 does not in any way say that Scripture is sufficient. It says it is profitable. No amount of bolding various words in your argument changes the words that are set in Scripture.

The rest of your post was just as bad. (I'll let others respond to it if they care to do so.)

Yep, typical. Cry and claim victory cause no one responds to you, then dismiss it when someone does.

On second thought, we'd probably do better to go with our initial instincts.

2 Timothy 2:16 definitely does present the idea of the sufficiency of Scriptures--by the very way it segues into the very next verse.Except that it doesn't segue the way you need it to. Sripture is useful for what? Training, doctrine, correction, reproof, instruction in righteousness. Paul is clearly saying that scripture is a tool. A very useful tool in which to correct, reproof, train, etc. so that one may be equipped for every good work. It is the instruction that makes perfection, not the scripture itself, and that is what the Church's role is.

In verse 14, Paul refers to extrascriptural sources, and advises Timothy to continue in those things, which would contradict your interpretation of 3:16-17.

"The Scriptures are INSPIRED, Dave. This is WHY the Scriptures are profitable for the things which Paul catalogues as a compendium of the excellencies of Scripture with regard to life and godliness. And this fact of the Bible's inspiration is WHY verses 16 and 17 constitute a single sentence. My goodness, it should be PATENTLY OBVIOUS to a regenerate individual that Paul is telling us that the Scriptures are inspired SO AS TO MAKE THE MAN OF GOD COMPLETE AND FULLY FITTED FOR EVERY GOOD WORK.

That is a pretty danged strong affirmation of the sufficiency of the Scriptures!"

The inspiration of scripture is not in doubt, but you have nowhere proved, illustrated, or demonstrated any sense of the word "sufficiency" in this passage.

Instead you continue to make your infantile eisegetical assertions, endeavouring to cow your opponents into submission by your pretense of academic rigour and bombast.

Your addition to the words of scripture in order to "tickle men's ears" is nothing other than a deceit of the anti-christ, and the following curse applies to you in a most pertinent way:

Apoc 22:18 "For I testify to every one that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book: If any man shall add to these things, God shall add unto him the plagues written in this book."