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Has ANYONE ever been imprisoned for smoking pot?
09/21/02
| Libloather
Posted on 09/21/2002 5:49:50 PM PDT by Libloather
Liberteens come, and Liberteens go. But they seem to have an awful time with their own (and biggest - maybe only) issue - pot.
As far as anyone can tell, not ONE person has been placed behind bars for smoking pot. But the Liberteens paint an entirely different picture. They claim that HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS are behind bars for smoking.
Can anyone provide any proof either way?
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To: Libloather; anniegetyourgun; Skooz
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341
posted on
09/28/2002 5:38:22 PM PDT
by
Oberon
342
posted on
09/28/2002 6:29:25 PM PDT
by
Mo1
To: Oberon
But if he arrests you, it'll be for posession of a controlled substance, not consumption of it. So your objection is a semantic quibble, rather than an argument of substance.I believe that's the SECOND time you've gotten the point. But when asked the question, "Has ANYONE ever been imprisoned for smoking pot?", you answered, "Yes." That would make you wrong. Not a little bit wrong, not somewhat wrong - totally, completely, 100% wrong.
As for my assertion, Liberteens constantly whine and complain that sooooooo many perps are behind bars because of smoking pot. It's a main plank in their twisted agenda. They too are wrong. Not a little bit wrong, not somewhat wrong - totally, completely, 100% wrong.
To: Libloather
Are you just goofy over your rudimentary control over semantics or are you saying you are willing to put up a struggle against cannabis possession laws?
344
posted on
09/28/2002 8:46:47 PM PDT
by
Dakmar
To: gdc61; Zon
I'm not sure, but if you are "smoking" it , then you would almost have to "possess" it.If you got busted for 50 pounds of the stuff, would you be charged for smoking 50 pounds? No.
When standing in front of da judge, he'll explain the charges. He'll NEVER say, "You were caught smoking..." He WILL say, "You were in the possession of..." But, then again, possession doesn't mean smoking - now does it?
To: Oberon
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346
posted on
09/28/2002 8:48:46 PM PDT
by
Dakmar
To: Dakmar; scholar; Zon
...rudimentary control over semantics...scholar wrote, "Our prison system is overburdened with non-violent, pot-smoking "criminals"...
The NORML website states, "Our country's war on drugs places great emphasis on arresting people for smoking marijuana."
The question remains - Has ANYONE ever been imprisoned for smoking pot?
To: Libloather
Let me make a hypothetical case here, ok?
Let's say I got arrested for drunk driving. The police found six beers in my car, along with a warm, unopened case of beer in the trunk. Should they be able to charge me with illegal trafficing in alcohol just because I had more beer with me than than I was ready to drink right away?
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posted on
09/28/2002 8:54:17 PM PDT
by
Dakmar
To: Libloather
Has anyone (except minors) been arrested for drinking beer? I doubt it, they are arrested either for public intox, or illegal possession, such as in dry counties, or having beer that may not have passed the scrutiny of the taxation authorities.
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posted on
09/28/2002 8:58:23 PM PDT
by
Dakmar
To: Dakmar; Zon
Let me make a hypothetical case here, ok?No. Can you answer the question? It's either 'yes' or 'no'. Pick one.
To: Libloather
Then the answer is YES. I know a guy who is in an Indiana state prison because he was smoking pot.
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posted on
09/28/2002 9:04:05 PM PDT
by
Dakmar
To: Dakmar
Then the answer is YES. I know a guy who is in an Indiana state prison because he was smoking pot.Well, hot damn. What was he charged with?
To: headsonpikes
Can I be arrested for smoking imaginary reefer?
To: Libloather
I'm sure there are people being arrested at Hash Bashes.
To: Libloather
Well, hot damn. What was he charged with? Using a controlled substance.
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posted on
09/28/2002 9:34:55 PM PDT
by
Dakmar
To: Dakmar; Zon
Using a controlled substance.What was he convicted of and was he convicted in Indiana?
To: Libloather
Parole violation. Using a controlled substance.
357
posted on
09/28/2002 10:18:04 PM PDT
by
Dakmar
To: Libloather
To: Libloather
At a contested trial in January 1991 at Carswell Air Force Base, Texas, appellant was convicted by a general court-martial composed of officer and enlisted members of charges that he had disobeyed a lawful order of a superior commissioned officer and that he had used marijuana on divers occasions over a 9-month period. See Arts. 90 and 112a, Uniform Code of Military Justice, 10 USC §§ 890 and 912a, respectively. The members sentenced him to a bad-conduct discharge, confinement for 12 months, forfeiture of $500.00 pay per month for 6 months, and reduction to the lowest enlisted grade. On the recommendation of his staff judge advocate (SJA), the convening authority set aside the disobedience finding and dismissed that charge as having been improperly referred. He did not disturb the marijuana-use finding and approved the sentence, except for confinement exceeding 10 months.
United States v. Donald J. Dresen
To: Libloather
That would make you wrong. Not a little bit wrong, not somewhat wrong - totally, completely, 100% wrong. Ahh... but the cop wouldn't have given you a second look if you hadn't lit up in front of him (in our little sample exercise). So even if the charge is for possession, the crime is consumption. That's why the law is written the way it is: to give police wider latitude in enforcement.
So if you commit one act, are arrested for it, but charged with another act and imprisoned, why is it exactly that you were put in jail?
Case in point: Al Capone. He was a smuggler, a crime boss, a murderer, an extortionist, and a thief. He was put in jail on the basis of a charge for tax evasion.
So why was he put in prison? I submit to you that his commission of the former crimes are what let to his imprisonment for the latter.
Why do you insist on separating the dancer from the dance?
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posted on
09/29/2002 5:19:02 AM PDT
by
Oberon
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