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Our Republic and Our Free Republic
9-6-02 | Joe Phillips

Posted on 09/06/2002 8:17:16 AM PDT by BADJOE

History teaches some very good lessons. They are hard to learn but our forefathers did a great job.

From the beginning of time man has overthrown one form of centralized government only to re-establish another one in its place. Our forefathers understood this far better than anyone ever had. They said governments are the eternal enemy of free men. They said that in order for man to remain free it would take a bloody revolution every other generation, unless you bound down (bastard) government with the chains of the constitution.

On another site this week a poster asked if anyone else hated government as much as he did. I replied to him

"Hell !! I thought you were not a good American if you didn't love our country and hate our government.

At least that is how I have always felt about it"

I think our forefathers had the same attitude that I have now. And I think it is inherent in the average Americans attitude to distrust and have disdain for any government, including ours. One of the hardest conclusions I had to arrive at as a young man, after having been a product of the public school system, was that our government was not on our side. As James Forrestahl, former secretary of the Navy, who suffered a mysterious death, once said about our State Department's foreign policy, " Stupidity is never a mark of consistancy. If they were merely stupid, they would occasionally make a mistake in our favor".

Newt Gringrich put it in a humourous manner when talking about the attitude of Europeans. He related the following story. If you go to Europe and drive on the Autobahn, you feel pretty good cruising down the highway at 100 mph when some some German passes you doing 140 mph. Now he said if the Bundestag passed the 55mph speed limit law, every German would dutifully obey that law, untill the next election. They would vote the 55 mph crowd out of office and the no speed limit crowd in. In America Newt said "A speed limit sign is a benchmark of opportunity.

It is obvious that Yankees and Euros have entirely different attitudes about government's edicts. There are darn few Americans who do not break the speed limit laws everyday.

Now we come to the Free Republic. Once a free wheeling, joyful site for news and discussion of politics, economics, philosophy, ethics and morals. I could not understand the transformation that has taken place in the last six months. Camaraderie, the sense of family, and cooperation seems to have disappeared. Are the Freepers exhibiting the same disdain for the new FR as Americans have for our government?


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To: Howlin
LOL, no doubt you would.

Allowances are for the younger years though.

When you are my age, you make deals with your parents.

501 posted on 09/06/2002 11:04:55 AM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
And it is obvious now it was for purely selfish reasons.

That's a damn lie.

502 posted on 09/06/2002 11:04:57 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: xsmommy
Yeah. And that is a "Good Thing".
Here, how 'bout a cold one?


503 posted on 09/06/2002 11:05:07 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: OneidaM
I think you're turning Japanese, I really think so.
504 posted on 09/06/2002 11:05:09 AM PDT by paulklenk
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To: OneidaM
#500'?
505 posted on 09/06/2002 11:05:09 AM PDT by xJones
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To: Joe Driscoll
I have one minute to beat your time of 11:10!!!

BTW, what do we win?? LOL
506 posted on 09/06/2002 11:05:17 AM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: paulklenk
Hahahahahaha! Did you get my FReepmail?
507 posted on 09/06/2002 11:05:23 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty
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To: strela
11:05 500!!!!!
508 posted on 09/06/2002 11:05:40 AM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: tomkat
you best not be making fun of xspup!
509 posted on 09/06/2002 11:05:48 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: hchutch
"If the DemonRATS were more like Tony Blair in England and still possessed honor and integrity in general, then I'd be a lot less concerned about this, but after the election of 2000, I learned that is not the case. They are a Mafia in all forms, determined to crush any who disagree with them as enemies. And I do not want that for America."

I agree wholeheartedly...the Clintonization of the DemonRAT Party has made it impossible fer any RATS to proudly hold their head up high until after they've participated in the Dethroning of Der SchleekMeister!!

FReegards...MUD

510 posted on 09/06/2002 11:06:06 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: Joe Driscoll; Focault's Pendulum
I'ld like to 11:10 AM pacific for # 500 Am I logged on?

That's a question for our resident logging expert, FP.

511 posted on 09/06/2002 11:06:09 AM PDT by Neets
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To: Howlin
i'd cut a bit more off than that....
512 posted on 09/06/2002 11:06:16 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: strela
Okay, you rat, you got #500! But #1000 by 5:00 CST is mine. :)
513 posted on 09/06/2002 11:07:18 AM PDT by xJones
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To: xsmommy
xspup is adorable !

i take dog fun pretty seriously, lady ...

514 posted on 09/06/2002 11:07:30 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
I was 55 minutes too conservative. Oh well, better too conservative than too liberal ;)
515 posted on 09/06/2002 11:07:31 AM PDT by strela
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To: Cyber Liberty
Yes, did you get my post at TOS?
516 posted on 09/06/2002 11:07:32 AM PDT by paulklenk
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To: Constitution Day
i don't normally drink beer, but i think i will chug that. thanks!
517 posted on 09/06/2002 11:07:35 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: deport
I have been hanging around here, hoping you would come back.
518 posted on 09/06/2002 11:07:48 AM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: Mo1
So I gather.

Thanks for the information. I will be sure to use the appropriate terminology from now on when referring to the banned v. the timed-out.

519 posted on 09/06/2002 11:07:52 AM PDT by unsycophant
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To: paulklenk
Now you are just being "Rirry"
520 posted on 09/06/2002 11:07:59 AM PDT by Neets
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