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Our Republic and Our Free Republic
9-6-02 | Joe Phillips

Posted on 09/06/2002 8:17:16 AM PDT by BADJOE

History teaches some very good lessons. They are hard to learn but our forefathers did a great job.

From the beginning of time man has overthrown one form of centralized government only to re-establish another one in its place. Our forefathers understood this far better than anyone ever had. They said governments are the eternal enemy of free men. They said that in order for man to remain free it would take a bloody revolution every other generation, unless you bound down (bastard) government with the chains of the constitution.

On another site this week a poster asked if anyone else hated government as much as he did. I replied to him

"Hell !! I thought you were not a good American if you didn't love our country and hate our government.

At least that is how I have always felt about it"

I think our forefathers had the same attitude that I have now. And I think it is inherent in the average Americans attitude to distrust and have disdain for any government, including ours. One of the hardest conclusions I had to arrive at as a young man, after having been a product of the public school system, was that our government was not on our side. As James Forrestahl, former secretary of the Navy, who suffered a mysterious death, once said about our State Department's foreign policy, " Stupidity is never a mark of consistancy. If they were merely stupid, they would occasionally make a mistake in our favor".

Newt Gringrich put it in a humourous manner when talking about the attitude of Europeans. He related the following story. If you go to Europe and drive on the Autobahn, you feel pretty good cruising down the highway at 100 mph when some some German passes you doing 140 mph. Now he said if the Bundestag passed the 55mph speed limit law, every German would dutifully obey that law, untill the next election. They would vote the 55 mph crowd out of office and the no speed limit crowd in. In America Newt said "A speed limit sign is a benchmark of opportunity.

It is obvious that Yankees and Euros have entirely different attitudes about government's edicts. There are darn few Americans who do not break the speed limit laws everyday.

Now we come to the Free Republic. Once a free wheeling, joyful site for news and discussion of politics, economics, philosophy, ethics and morals. I could not understand the transformation that has taken place in the last six months. Camaraderie, the sense of family, and cooperation seems to have disappeared. Are the Freepers exhibiting the same disdain for the new FR as Americans have for our government?


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To: VA Advogado
I think you have me confused with someone else...maybe Askel5, or something.
181 posted on 09/06/2002 9:35:37 AM PDT by Neets
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To: Romulus
"...mindless rabble whose one capacity was for inchoate anger."

The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

182 posted on 09/06/2002 9:35:43 AM PDT by billhilly
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To: one_particular_harbour
Joe is not being put up to this by McFly or his devoted minion--it just happens that Joe is using very poor judgement, and it makes the critics swoon. (And this probably has something to do with Mertz being banned, if that was accurate.)

I can't help but notice that you obviously read some of those 'other sites' because you refer to what takes place on the other forums.

Have you ever considered participating at any of them directly and challenging the commentary there? It is scary to get into the pit, and it probably makes no difference in the end....but then, the same argument could be made anywhere. Ultimately, all things are equal.

183 posted on 09/06/2002 9:35:50 AM PDT by unsycophant
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To: Freemeorkillme
No one sees the credit card info but me and Willa.

The Duke who provides the site could see them. He ran the donations though his site before I came on board. He forwards automaticly the info in encrypted form to me.

I read the numbers to Willa and she types them in.

Jim gets a copy of each donation as it comes in but his copy does not have the card numbers on it. He does see name, address, and e-mail address when they are included.
184 posted on 09/06/2002 9:36:11 AM PDT by BADJOE
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To: tomkat
Done. Thanks, AM
186 posted on 09/06/2002 9:37:10 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: VA Advogado
Your best post ever!

Well, at least until her opus.

187 posted on 09/06/2002 9:37:25 AM PDT by oldvike
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To: Mo1
I was just speculating on Joe's objective. I like the way FR is run - I'm happy with it and I think Jim and his staff do a great job.
188 posted on 09/06/2002 9:38:12 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: VA Advogado
That's no one else's business.

JW and Klayman have my fondest regards and respect.

189 posted on 09/06/2002 9:38:13 AM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: tomkat
for the sake of clarity, you're saying it won't make 500, correct ?"

No. I'm saying it will.

190 posted on 09/06/2002 9:38:16 AM PDT by Jakarta ex-pat
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To: OneidaM; BeAChooser
You haven't left YET????

I wish she would. And take her boy Beachooser with her.

191 posted on 09/06/2002 9:38:20 AM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: BADJOE
Joe, I'm replying to this only as a sign of respect for you and all that you have brought to this site over the years. What is the matter? I thought that the moderators are there to keep JimRob and the site out of court again, and that is a 'good thing', to quote a lady who will soon find herself in court. Do I have the wrong message again?

My only complaint with this site is that it is harder to find my way around with the new software. There are too many articles competing for attention in the sidebar now. But I'll get used to it. I've always gotten used to it before.

192 posted on 09/06/2002 9:38:56 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
oh, we're on the same team then ...
193 posted on 09/06/2002 9:39:10 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
Gee Beckie .. back to start trouble again??
194 posted on 09/06/2002 9:39:10 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: Mo1
Well is there???

Silly question, but okay, I will answer it:

I do not blame George W Bush for Bill Clinton, rainy days, anal warts, quicksand, body lice, evil spirits, gridlock, acid rain, continental drift, labor violence, flash floods, rabies, torture, bad luck, calcium deficiency, falling rocks, cattle stampedes, bank failure, evil neighbors, killer bees, organ rejection, lynching, toxic waste, unstable dynamite, religious fanatics, prickly heat, price fixing, moral decay, hotel fires, loss of face, stink bombs, bubonic plague, neo-Nazis, friction, cereal weevils, failure of will, chain reactions, soil erosion, mail fraud, dry rot, voodoo curses, broken glass, snake bites, parasites, white slavery, public ridicule, faithless friends, random violence, breaches of contract, family scandals, charlatans, transverse militias, structural defects, race riots, sun spots, rogue elephants, wax buildup, killer frost, jealous coworkers, root canals, mental fatigue, corporal punishment, sneak attacks, peer pressure, vigilantes, birth defects, false advertising, ungrateful children, financial ruin, mildew, loss of priveleges, bad drugs, ill-fitting shoes, widespread chaos, stray bullets, runaway trains, chemical spills, locusts, airline food, shipwrecks, prowlers, bathtub accidents, faulty merchandise, terrorism, discrimination, wrongful cremation, carbon deposits, beef tapeworms, taxation without representation, escaped maniacs, sunburn, abandonment, threatening letters, entropy, nine-mile fever, poor workmanship, absentee landlord, solitary confinement, depletion of the ozone layer, unworthiness, intestinal bleeding, defrocked priests, loss of equilibrium, disgruntled employees, global warming, card sharks, poisoned meat, nuclear accidents, broken promises, contamination of the water supply, obscene phone calls, nuclear winter, wayward girls, mutual assured destruction, rampaging moose, the greenhouse effect, cluster headaches, social isolation, Dutch elm disease, contraction of the universe, paper cuts, eternal damnation, and the the wrath of God.

195 posted on 09/06/2002 9:39:25 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: VA Advogado
ME TOO...they spend more time "OVER THERE" anyway...
196 posted on 09/06/2002 9:39:32 AM PDT by Neets
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To: VA Advogado
BeAChooser is on the other site and not here any longer.
197 posted on 09/06/2002 9:39:50 AM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: Rebelbase
Excellent post.
198 posted on 09/06/2002 9:39:59 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Mo1
No.
199 posted on 09/06/2002 9:40:13 AM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
JW and Klayman have my fondest regards and respect.

Which appears to be the kiss of death.

200 posted on 09/06/2002 9:40:30 AM PDT by VA Advogado
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