[bvw]

When someone comes onto a thread, giving an opinion, offereing nothing in support of that opinion, and name-calling everyone who doesn't agree with it, why that person has just penciled his mark in the STUPID BOX. And when he celebrates his no-nothingness against many folks who studied and carefully followed every thing about the subject for months --- the RAVING IDIOT BOX.

And, here's a thing you best keep in mind -- just like Reno and Reno's minions kept suppressed and hidden pertinant information they had on the cubano padre Gonzales, and stacked the deck in every way agsint the refugee boy Elian, so too was the deck stacked against Westerfield. The Jury heard less than the regular readers of these threads did, the Judge kept their blinders on -- only forcing them to be poisoned directly and indirectly by the media propaganda. The public was directed to a decision, it didn't come, by itself, to one.

I can't understand why Luis Gonzales has become a big fan of the propaganda state. Of all people, I thought you would be able to resist the song of the media sirens and such fans and comrades of Castro.

[Freedom2specul8]

"I can't understand why Luis Gonzales has become a big fan of the propaganda state. Of all people, I thought you would be able to resist the song of the media sirens and such fans and comrades of Castro. "

As you well know, we "can" speak our minds and we don't have to play follow the leader. Most of us don't follow the leader.

We are able to "read" the trancripts, read whatever book we want, and watch or listen to whatever we want.

Just because your interpretation of events isn't shared by all regular trial observers, doesn't mean those people who disagree with you are victims of state propaganda.

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a38764c85336d.htm

[Freedom2specul8]

http://www.claremont.org/publications/robinson991027.cfm
Reeb finishes with detailed studies of how Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and Alexander Hamilton viewed political journalism. But he goes beyond a merely theoretical treatment. Reeb finds that these founders shared a common vision -- a partisan vision absent from today's journalists. "[W]hereas the founding generation looked to the self-evident truths of the Declaration of Independence for first principles, today's journalists take refuge in a self-denying ordinance against partisanship which neither overcomes their partisanship nor strengthens the public's attachment to the Constitution."

These are strong words in an era when so many in the media lament the lack of public spiritedness and cynicism about government. It lays at the feet of the journalistic community and its overarching ideas, the blame for much of the disconnect citizens feel toward debate in the public square. Reeb instead prescribes honesty and energy in the "partisan" cause of informing Americans about politics within the context of a constitutional republic. "A healthy political journalism should not suppress its major premises or implied conclusions but assume the honorable burden of stating and defending them, in open and honest debate, to other members of the media, to politicians and to other citizens," he writes.

[Freedom2specul8]

http://www.claremont.org/publications/robinson991027.cfm
Reform begins, then, with a reflection upon our republican principles. Too many journalists are defending an idea that sanctions and protects their institutional strength without understanding the other important institutions that safeguard freedom. Such narcissism comes with a cost. As American sentiment for government drops, the media often fail to report the lack of trust in them as an institution. A quick visit to the Freedom Forum's website (http://www.freedomforum.org) shows just how journalists are concerned with the public's negative opinion toward them.

[Freedom2specul8]

There are so many great articles...about media propaganda, state propaganda...where do we start?

I found the previous article I posted to you just doing a quick search from previous fr links.

Should we start debating about bias in the media?

or do we even need to....?

[Freedom2specul8]

My recent posts were for you too...sorry I left your name off. I picked a random article, because there are too many good ones out there..where to start?

[Luis Gonzalez]

"...and name-calling everyone who doesn't agree with it..."

Would you care to point out the places where I called "everyone" names?

You can't because I didn't do that.

In all actuality, that's the behavior that you are busy engaging in.

Pot...kettle...black.