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To: Valpal1
You are blinded and mistaken in your perceptions of the testimony and the public demeanor of the parents.

I have watched the PH trial. I have read the transcripts. I read the news articles. I watched the TRIAL.

I can tell when someone is lying. Body language is very telling. Voice pitch changes are also.

Let me ask you this. Are you in denial about the Friends at the Van Dam's? THey all told different stories. Someone or several are lying.

In court, Prosecution witnesses stated UNDER OATH, that police didn't copy their statements down correctly.

Police admitted they lied to obtain the warrant to search DW's.

I see a situation where evidence tracking proves that Danielle had been in the MH at one time, but not when.

I see evidence that proves she had not been in the MH for approx. one year, that DW had never been in the VD home.

I see child murderers and rapists running rampant in SD. Samantha Runnion. I suppose DW did that while he was in jail. I see arrests at the same time that DANIELLE's body most likely was placed at Dehesa Rd, for an INTERNATIONAL PORN RING, with members being part of the SDPD. How many people, on losing their child, are more worried about their bust size? Why was Brenda so willing to go on TV and help Jahi Turner's mother, when it first started, then when the stepfather failed the LIE DETECTOR test, BRENDA did an about face?

I have not discounted any valid evidence.

Listen, Val, it could be that the VD's were careless, and because of that someone snatched their daughter. It could be that they are sincere and would do anything to NOT have lost her, or get her back. The fact that this is not what they have said or done, is why I feel the way I do.

I gave the Vd's the benefit of reasonable doubt at the start, and they totally blew it. Over and over again.

Maybe they are just irresponsible non-monagomous druggies and lied/covered up to try and hide that. Maybe DW is a magician and he got Danielle, without his trace in her house or room, and without her trace in his SUV or MH. Maybe he sexually assaulted her and killed her without leaving traces of that. Maybe he bleached the MH and got rid of the evidence , except for 1 print, 1 hair, 1 spot, and 1 spot on the jacket. Maybe he drove all over southern california with her alive in the back of his MH and went to public places, and no one noticed her, neither did he worry that someone might enter the MH and find her.

Maybe......

1,513 posted on 08/28/2002 3:20:41 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
What I see is a guy who thinks his distant perceptions over a t.v. camera, is somehow more acute and accurate than that of 12 jurors who where sitting in the same room.

And sorry its like investigative 101, that multiple witnesses to the same events will tell different versions that will converge and diverge in curious ways. And these where drunk/stoned witnesses on top of that. I am amazed that they could testify to anything.

All the things that you have built you suspicions on are your (biased) personal perceptions and the shifting sands and vagaries of the unknowable.


1,515 posted on 08/28/2002 3:39:25 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: UCANSEE2
Too bad you were not on the jury. After beating your head against the other 11, there would have been a hung jury & we could all have this fun again. As it is, I have to respect the jury's decision, as I would have done had he been found not guilty.
1,516 posted on 08/28/2002 3:50:29 PM PDT by Ditter
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