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To: Ditter; Yeti; All
People of the lie was written by M Scott Peck MD
pg 69 "The central defect of the evil is not the sin but the refusal to acknowledge it."

pg 73 "A predominant characteristic of the behavior that I call evil is scapegoating. Because in their hearts they consider themselves above reproach, they must lash out at anyone who does reproach them. They sacrifice others to preserve the self-image of perfection"

Also by the same author:

The Road Less Traveled
Meditations From The Road Less Traveled
Exploring The Road Less Traveled
Further Along The Road Less Traveled

In my opinion, these are all excellent books that offer wisdom about good and evil. Such wisdom is rarely found on these threads although evil has raised it's ugly head in these flame wars. With FresnoDa banned, the fun, humor and much of the thoroughly researched information was banned also.

Although I don't post very much, I used to very much enjoy lurking on these threads. Now I regret the donation for my membership.

I also have been slandered by the VD defenders for revealing that I used to work with abused children. My statement that I had more than 150 children come through the doors of my house was answered with; "That was over 150 children to many." That was from someone that does not know me and has no concept of my morals, religion, education or philosophy.

The very idea that the environment a child lives in does not effect the mental health and safety of a child; particularly one that involves excessive drinking, drug use and immoral or perverse sexual behavior is ludicrous. It is my opinion that anyone that says otherwise is just as ludicrous.

For those that have been kind enough to respond to my posts with patience and kindness, I thank you. For those that wish to argue with me, defame me, or post any more lunacy to me, you are not worth my time and effort to respond.
1,307 posted on 08/26/2002 11:06:16 PM PDT by fussybutt
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To: fussybutt
You are not worth my time to respond

I just wish we could get it across the best thing to do with the disruptors is to just ignore them, not post to them, or any thing else.

When a disruptor posts, to me they become invisible, they are just not there, so I just ignore them.

And I also think it was a crying shame that Fresno got banned, where did the warning that he should have gotten, but no just a flat out banned. What was so terrible about his joke? I certainly have read things that should have been banned but were'nt and they are still here with their snide remarks and out of control fingers on the key board.

Their joy in life is to get some one ticked off, so they will reply and get banned. What a sad life they must be living.
1,308 posted on 08/26/2002 11:17:54 PM PDT by calawah98
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To: fussybutt
"I also have been slandered by the VD defenders for revealing that I used to work with abused children"


That's terrible...I've worked in a domestic violence shelter for a short period of time. It was not fun nor was it easy. While they brought their kids with them, I can't imagine working with abused kids on a daily basis. People that do it for a living are extra special and are tough.
1,313 posted on 08/27/2002 6:43:11 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: fussybutt
I also have been slandered by the VD defenders for revealing that I used to work with abused children.

I agreed to stay off these threads as long as my name wasn't mentioned. Of course it has not been, but I really must respond to this.

First, could you please produce the post you refer to?

I do not think it is fair to cite one post from someone--a post you have not produced so we can all see it--and then to paint *all* people who post here that think Westerfield is the murderer (not "VD defenders") as holding those sentiments regarding your work with children.

1,314 posted on 08/27/2002 7:07:38 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: fussybutt
You have put both camps neatly in their places; Westerfield supporters GOOD; Van Dam supporters BAD. But you seem to have left me out even tho the post was directed to me.

I have gone out of my way to say that I find the Van Dam's & Westerfield both guilty. The Van Dams are evil disgusting people & their lifestyle led to their daughters death IMHO. Westerfield had Danielle's DNA on his jacket & her hairs in his MH. Why did the man down the street have her DNA & hairs if he wasn't involved in her death? It doesn't help that W tried to get into the swinging group & was rejected, he hung out at Dad's, he collected porn, even kiddie porn. If I am murderd & my neighbor has my DNA on his clothes & my hairs in his drain I hope they hang the SOB because he did it.
1,315 posted on 08/27/2002 7:12:52 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: fussybutt
People of the lie was written by M Scott Peck MD

Thanks fussybutt.

I couldn't remember his name. I never read any of the others, but of course I had heard OF The Road Less Travelled. It was mentioned on the cover of People of the Lie.

It really was a thought-provoking book. I expected it to go somewhere, like a novel, but instead it was in the form of several case histories taken from his personal practice. It was engrossing.

1,347 posted on 08/27/2002 3:38:49 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: fussybutt
So my opinion on your possible fitness for having abused kids in your home is "slander"?

How would you describe your opinion that one or both Van Dams are child molesters? Is that slander as well?

1,384 posted on 08/27/2002 8:59:02 PM PDT by Greg Weston
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