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To: Boomer

Don’t act like a lefty. That’s not what I wrote.

I don’t know of a single state which permits discharging a weapon at a person over a property crime involving a vehicle (unoccupied).

That includes Texas.


16 posted on 12/20/2023 10:28:03 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869

What does the law say your “rights” are when the bad guys start shooting at you first?

Stand there and take it?


19 posted on 12/20/2023 10:42:22 PM PST by Laslo Fripp (Semper Fidelis)
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To: logi_cal869

Maybe we didn’t read the same article. It states the perps fired first, then the property owner returned fire in self defense.

If you think that’s wrong then you should check your ‘red’ card at the desk.


20 posted on 12/20/2023 10:42:54 PM PST by Boomer (The Long Winter is coming...)
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To: logi_cal869

“I don’t know of a single state which permits discharging a weapon at a person over a property crime involving a vehicle (unoccupied).”


That is not what happened according to the son =>

“They started shooting at us first, and I returned fire,” he [Willis] said.


22 posted on 12/20/2023 10:48:52 PM PST by Ken H (Trump 2024)
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To: logi_cal869
You're right, in every state you have to be in mortal fear of your life to discharge a weapon in self defense. Not over a vehicle burglary for sure.
23 posted on 12/20/2023 10:54:04 PM PST by Bullish (...And just like that, I was dropped from the ping-list)
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To: logi_cal869

He told police when they confronted the suspects, at least one of them pulled out a gun and began firing first.

“They started shooting at us first, and I returned fire,” he said.


27 posted on 12/20/2023 11:33:13 PM PST by NoLibZone (We have the nation we deserve The bad guys are willing to protest and riot while we email.)
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To: logi_cal869

So you can’t read? Mr. Willis clearly stated that the perps shot first. That’s why his son took cover behind his neighbor’s pickup. 🤦‍♀️


31 posted on 12/21/2023 3:00:42 AM PST by Prince of Space (Trump 2024!)
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To: logi_cal869

“I don’t know of a single state which permits discharging a weapon at a person over a property crime involving a vehicle (unoccupied).

That includes Texas.”

When I moved to Texas in the early 80s I went to a seminar on the rules regarding deadly force. The takeaway was that it was permissible to shoot someone stealing ANYTHING from your property. Thinking I must have misunderstood, I asked what about a newspaper? The answer, you can shoot em. Of course things may have changed since those days.


34 posted on 12/21/2023 3:17:59 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: logi_cal869

“”I don’t know of a single state which permits discharging a weapon at a person over a property crime involving a vehicle (unoccupied).

That includes Texas.””

You might want to check again.

Sec. 9.42. DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY. A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property:

(1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.41; and

(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:

(A) to prevent the other’s imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or

(B) to prevent the other who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property; and

(3) he reasonably believes that:

(A) the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means; or

(B) the use of force other than deadly force to protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.

Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, Sec. 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974. Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, Sec. 1.01, eff. Sept. 1, 1994.


42 posted on 12/21/2023 6:01:05 AM PST by Dusty Road (")
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To: logi_cal869

Texas law EXPLICITLY allows this during nighttime. Daylight is differeny.


46 posted on 12/21/2023 6:54:45 AM PST by BoringGuy
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