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Almost half the men surveyed think they could land a passenger plane. Experts disagree
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Posted on 12/07/2023 3:57:00 PM PST by algore

Picture this: you’re nestled comfortably in your seat cruising towards your travel destination when a flight attendant’s voice breaks through the silence:

“Ladies and gentlemen, both pilots are incapacitated. Are there any passengers who could land this plane with assistance from air traffic control?”

If you think you could manage it, you’re not alone. Survey results published in January indicate about one-third of adult Americans think they could safely land a passenger aircraft with air traffic control’s guidance. Among male respondents, the confidence level rose to nearly 50%.

Can a person with no prior training simply guide everyone to a smooth touchdown?

We’ve all heard stories of passengers who saved the day when the pilot became unresponsive.

For instance, last year Darren Harrison managed to land a twin-engine aircraft in Florida – after the pilot passed out – with the guidance of an air traffic controller who also happened to be a flight instructor.

However, such incidents tend to take place in small, simple aircraft. Flying a much bigger and heavier commercial jet is a completely different game.

Once the aircraft comes close to the runway, they must accurately judge its height, reduce power and adjust the rate of descent – ensuring they land on the correct area of the runway.

On the ground, they will use the brakes and reverse thrust to bring the aircraft to a complete stop before the runway ends. This all happens within just a few minutes.

Both takeoff and landing are far too quick, technical and concentration-intensive for an untrained person to pull off. They also require a range of skills that are only gained through extensive training, such as understanding the information presented on different gauges, and being able to coordinate one’s hands and feet in a certain way.

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To: Paladin2
I hate it when Stews say over the PA “We will be on the ground soon”.

People need to be careful what they say on the intercom. I was on a flight going through a storm and having a ton of turbulence. The pilot got on the intercom and said, 'folks, we're experiencing some difficulty here, but we'll just, ah, hope for the best'.

81 posted on 12/07/2023 5:41:58 PM PST by neverevergiveup
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To: PghBaldy

I found her strangely attractive


82 posted on 12/07/2023 5:42:48 PM PST by al baby (I know its the way the measure the cooling capability )
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To: algore
How many hours of Flight Simulator have you played?

Actually landing the plane is not so hard. Landing the plane in such a way that it can take off again, not so easy.

83 posted on 12/07/2023 5:44:24 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Keep America Beautiful by keeping Canadian Trash Out. Deport Jennifer Granholm!)
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To: gunnut

Sully says or swim away from


84 posted on 12/07/2023 5:45:09 PM PST by al baby (I know its the way the measure the cooling capability )
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To: algore

Favorite scene: “yes stewardess, I speak jive.”


85 posted on 12/07/2023 5:47:53 PM PST by Liaison (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Liaison

Here is Mrs Billingsly speaking about her part in that. wonderful interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUw2fIa0dSI


86 posted on 12/07/2023 5:51:35 PM PST by al baby (I know its the way the measure the cooling capability )
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To: crusty old prospector
I could land it on the Bonneville Salt Flats. It might bounce a few times.

Or further west, a dry lake bed. I'd go with wheels up (it's not my plane!) and empty or near empty tanks.

No fuel, no fireball. Just a bumpy, VERY bumpy, skid and possible flip to a stop.

Everybody out of the pool!!! Use all the exits and any fractures in the fuselage! Help anyone who needs it...

87 posted on 12/07/2023 5:52:22 PM PST by null and void (If you support monsters you will die in the cross fire.)
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To: jerod
In fact, given the propensity of some pilots to commit mass suicide, they should have a system that can take over the entire operation of the plane when needed.

Then it gets hacked and someone crashes a whole bunch of planes.

Everything has a down side.

88 posted on 12/07/2023 5:52:46 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Keep America Beautiful by keeping Canadian Trash Out. Deport Jennifer Granholm!)
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To: algore

Aircraft maintenance in the military, did heavy transports for several years - C-5A and C-141A. I know the power, hydraulic, avionics, flight and engine instrument systems. Fun Job, enjoyed it.

Could I land one? Maybe good enough to walk or crawl away. Reusing the airframe? That’ll cost you extra.


89 posted on 12/07/2023 5:55:40 PM PST by dagunk
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To: dagunk

same here. F-16 avionics.


90 posted on 12/07/2023 5:57:42 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: sasquatch
Units problem.

From gliding in above the end of the runway to wheels down, reverse thrust and brakes on and then all off as you come to a near stop is seconds, not minutes, in the experience of this commercial passenger seat guy.

91 posted on 12/07/2023 6:03:10 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: algore

I don’t believe I could land any plane, but I’d have a pretty good shot at landing a Space Shuttle. A lifetime ago I used to work on the Shuttle Simulator at Johnson Space Center.


92 posted on 12/07/2023 6:05:10 PM PST by The Duke (Why do I think that the cynicism gene is going to be prevalent in future generations?)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Same here - B52-G/H models, KC-135 - automatic flight control and heading.

We knew people in the B-52 Sim Shop that would let you try flying on the mids shift. Straight and level flight was okay. Landing - well, it never ended well.! Haha !


93 posted on 12/07/2023 6:05:49 PM PST by Fury
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To: algore

I was thinking ‘Midnight Express’.


94 posted on 12/07/2023 6:06:48 PM PST by desertsolitaire ( M)
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To: algore

As a retired career pilot I think it possible to keep it in the air, even without the AP engaged but landing ... Nope!

Some of the bigger carrier flight decks are still 2 and 3 stories above the tarmac .. when they are sitting ON the tarmac!😁

AGAIN .. NOPE!😌


95 posted on 12/07/2023 6:09:45 PM PST by justme4now (Our Right's are God given and I don't need permission from politicians or courts to exercise them!)
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To: null and void

Woohoo!!


96 posted on 12/07/2023 6:11:34 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Gen.Blather

Yep! Agree, Gen B! I landed a 747 via a professional simulator over twenty years ago. Killed everyone... five times in a row.


97 posted on 12/07/2023 6:16:07 PM PST by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: In_Iowa_not_from
Back in the 1990s, I logged much flight time playing Red Baron.
98 posted on 12/07/2023 6:23:23 PM PST by Angelino97
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To: phormer phrog phlyer

I can and have (with someone certified instructors present) flown helicopters and small airplanes. Actually landed a small airplane once (again instructor present).

That was not too tough.

Wasn’t stupid enough to try to land the heli.

I have NO illusions I could land a heavy. None. Would only try if there was NO other option. Hey a small chance is better than no chance.


99 posted on 12/07/2023 6:27:30 PM PST by piytar (Do NOT forget Ashli Babbit!)
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To: alternatives?

The difference between crash and not crash. Gravity wins either way.


100 posted on 12/07/2023 6:39:16 PM PST by drSteve78 (Je suis Deplorable. Even more so)
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