Posted on 12/09/2017 8:56:58 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
Looking for some helpful hints and discussion on Windows 10 update.
I have a G751 Asus ROG computer, which is pretty capable and modern (Intel quad core 4710HQ, 32 GB RAM, NVIDIA 970 GTX), only a couple of years old. I've been using Windows 10 Home Edition happily for the last 2+ years, accepting upgrades as they are pushed to me without problems.
Now comes the Creators Update (the 1703 series of Windows 10), and I have big problems.
First off, MS is pushing it on me, by clogging up my computer with the Windows 10 upgrade download. When I do the upgrade, which I have done is several ways, it is either wholly or partially unsuccessful. Details:
-Doing the upgrade as pushed, just doesn't work. It fails with the error 8007001x.
-Shutting off all startup services and oddball audio doesn't help.
- Using the media creation tool helps a little... the full Creators system downloads, checks itself, says its installing--and then crashes before the first reboot.
- Using this option with the "keep personal files and apps" option crashes at the point where the system should do its first stop and restart.
- Using the media creation tool with the "save personal data but not apps" actually does work... the system installs, and can be booted up. But, none of my drivers work. In particular the ethernet (wired) and ethernet wireless adapters don't work. The drivers are shown as present in Device Manager, but with the statement that they couldn't be loaded.
Fortunately, the rollback feature worked, and I'm back to the 1609 build. But the computer will be forever bothering me with pushing downloads of the upgrade assistant, I fear.
Has anyone else had similar experiences. This is very, very BETA. Previous upgrade experiences have been reasonably smooth.
Philosophically, I agree with you.
I can’t blame MS for wanting to keep their customers current.
But, they’ve automated the process to the extent where it generally works well. But, when it doesn’t, you don’t know where you are or what is wrong.
A full reinstall of all programs and options is a real pain.
And, I did check my manufacturer’s website, and there have been no new driver upgrades posted since 2015.
So, a clean reinstall would either have to work with MS default drivers, or the old ones, re-entered.
The thing is, the computer works great as is, and if it can’t take the new major pack, I’d be happy to freeze it as is and use it for a few more years until it’s obsolete, and then move on.
My 6-year-old Acer laptop got the 1607 Cumulative Update last month and now has an inoperative ATI graphics card. The screen resolution can be changed but it is blurry even at the highest resolution. And to make matters worse, the brightness controls are disabled, along with screen size, color temp, all the fancy stuff that used to be there. The screen's always at full brightness so the battery lasts about 90 minutes before it goes to power-saving mode and disables many features like Bluetooth, WiFi, etc.
Problem could be fixed if AMD, who bought out ATI a few years back, would update the Radeon SD4200 series driver to be compatible with Windows 10. MS allegedly replaced the original driver with one that works, only it doesn't.
I was going to suggest those too, but they take too long to explain.
Ping for later because everything Microsoft does to me means 2 weeks of sweat, not much blood, but lots of tears.
I’m curious about your mouse click issue. Are you getting a double click when you’ve only single clicked?
YES! I am using a Wacom Intuos Large table (pen and mouse). Problem started a few major updates back.
I’m getting that much of the time with a Logitech MX Revolution, which is irreplaceable. I may have to break down, and buy and downgrade to an MX Master.
I had trouble updating a relatives Win 10 to 1709. It would download the update but fail to install. I don’t remember the error code. I got it to update by using the Reset Windows Update Agent. I had to manually rename the SoftwareDistribution folder in the Windows directory. Saved me from having to do a clean install.
https://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/scriptcenter/Reset-Windows-Update-Agent-d824badc
https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
Free software to stop win10 spyware. Hope this helps someone. I’m using Windows 7. And 8.1 on a laptop, which is ridiculous.
Next, i think I’ll get an android device, like my phone. Much less headache than MS Winblows.
Every time I see a thread like this i’m reminded how happy I am that I switched to Macs when Windoze Ate was released.
I don’t have to deal with temperamental updates/upgrades/downgrades and Apple doesn’t reinvent the User Interface on a whim.
Upgrade day for me is quite stress free, even with 4 different models at home (2009 Mac Pro, 2011 iMac 27”, 2011 MacBook Pro 17” and 2012 Mac Mini), plus an iPad Pro 12.9”, my iPhone and Apple Watch.
I have one, and you won't be sorry! Best mouse I've ever had. The support for my thumb and how it fits my right hand is superb. Owned it for two weeks now and the cramping I used to get from the mouse I used to have is gone.
I even used a download from Logitech to consolidate the dongles to one for the keyboard and mouse. The customizations for this mouse (wheel speed, travel, sensitivity, buttons) are really helpful too.
I seldom rave about computer products however I really like this mouse. I don't regret spending a few extra dollars for it.
event viewer and dsim.exe are your friends (from an elevated command prompt of course)
My computer gave me a message (in the updates section) that it couldn’t be applied until the bios was update and something else needed to be done - I opted to make the changes and it loaded and worked fine.
I made sure all my drivers are updated to their latest versions and am downloading Windows 10 1709 to my oldest computer now. We’ll see how the update goes. Will post update to this thread.
Will be useful info - I am Running Win 10 on a year-old laptop. My main computer is about 7 years old and has Win 7 on it. Thinking of having a friend who builds/sells computers put together a good LINUX machine with Windows running on a Virtual Machine for when I absolutely need a Windows App for compatibility with others.
Been sitting on 95% downloaded for about 15 minutes now. Not seeing any SSD activity, processor is cranking away though. Going to give this a little while longer and see what happens.
My oldest computer is:
Intel i3 Processor Gen 4 @ 3.8Ghz
ASRock H87M-ITX Motherboard
16GB DDR-3 Memory
Samsung 850 SSD
Onboard Intel graphics, Gig-E, Sound, etc..
It's a pretty barebones system, I use it as a bastion host for other things. If the update bombs it's no big deal.
I'm not surprised this machine is having difficulty. It's at least 5 years old and the drivers haven't been updated by the manufacturer for about 2 years now, since shortly after Windows 10 came out.
The above error at first blush seems to indicate Windows Update is having issues with either my firewall, AntiVirus software, both, or something else. I'm not about to disable either while connected to the Internet so I'll be downloading the ISO and updating from that once I disconnect the machine (physically) from the 'net.
For the record, this is the first Windows Update in a number of years I've had any difficulty with. My experience has typically been good so I guess I'm due. :-)
No. I shut down all unnecessary programs when doing the update.
Thanks for the upgrade error link. The things it wants me to do seem fairly complex, but I'll look into them. Particularly, the comments about profiles.
As this is my primary machine, I'm not sure I want to go there, since the rollback version works just fine.
I did exactly this, to no avail. And the DISM and SFC programs ran to 100% with no complaint.
As I said, the update did a full download, said it was installing, and crashed at the point of first shutdown and restart, when I took the least invasive “save personal information and apps” option.
When I took the next step, specifying “save personal info” (but not apps) setting, it looked as if the entire upgrade worked. I was able to start the computer in the new Windows 10 1703 version. But none of my drivers worked—Device Manager reported that my ethernet and wireless drivers were present, but that they could not be loaded. That meant I had a pretty brick. If I couldn’t go to the internet for update files (or anything else) the new system was useless.
Fortunately, the rollback option worked perfectly.
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