The JFK Document Dump Could Be a Fiasco

politico ^ | October 16, 2017 | PHILIP SHENON and LARRY J. SABATO

[Rabin]

Within the next two weeks questions of (murder verses susside) of our late President, John F. Kennedy has finally come to us. The National Archives must, by October 26 release tens of thousands of Justice Department’s CIA, FBI compact, JKK/LBJ & Related, documents detailing VP, Lyndon Johnson’s part in the (k-1 and spinoff) “incident “Dt-Dp, 22111963.”

Cloistered by bums, for all these years, to protect us. The once great Central Agency has not confirmed or denied reports that it continues to engage in the process to “determine the… next steps with respect to unreleased information.”

[Rabin]

As it stands now, the document release this month shuold be a much needed breath of fresh air. Perhaps a new beginning from the swamp.

Rab

[DesertRhino]

Fiasco how? The SOBs have had 53 years. What fiasco could possibly result from us knowing the secrets of 1963?
Unless of course, it was America’s successful coup de tat and they are horrified at millions of documents out there for us to see.

There won’t be a hit order signed by Dulles, or a meeting of the joint chiefs all agreeing it needs to happen.
But in millions of documents, there will be inconsistencies and details that they have knowingly and repeatedly lied about.

Bottom line, they counted on it that whoever was in office in October 2017 would play ball. They got Trump and the release is gonna happen just the way it is supposed to.

[stars & stripes forever]

MSM will conveniently report 24/7 on JFK and revisit Camelot, ignoring the latest Russian connection with BO and HILLARY,

[DesertRhino]

” it continues to engage in the process to “determine the… next steps with respect to unreleased information.””

You release it.. That’s the step.

[SteveH]

“JFK assassin Lee Harvey Oswald”

false. never proven in a court of law.

LHO was at most an *alleged* assassin of JFK.

Sloppy journalism or (more likely) ongoing CIA disinformation campaign involving the MSM.

[DesertRhino]

The term conspiracy theory was first created by the CIA in 1967 to shut down criticism of the Warren commission and the CIA.

[AZLiberty]

Isn’t Jamie Gorelick available? Surely she will be able to explain everything to everyone’s satisfaction.

[no-to-illegals]

Warren commision member gerold ford became president ... reminds me of that time when cronkite defended the Warren commision on a C BS special report .... shortly after ... ford was vice-president, Nixon resigned and ford was president ...

[wardaddy]

I for one believe Oswald shot Kennedy

Like James Earl Ray I think he had logistical allies

[sam_whiskey]

Your “excerpt” sucks. Almost indecipherable.

[iowamark]

Many are known to involve a mysterious chapter in the history of the assassination—a six-day trip that JFK assassin Lee Harvey Oswald paid to Mexico City several weeks before the president’s murder, in which Oswald met with Cuban and Soviet spies and came under intensive surveillance by the CIA’s Mexico City station. Previously released FBI documents suggest that Oswald spoke openly in Mexico about his intention to kill Kennedy.

[Netz]

The titles of articles are preparing us for a delay or the release of many documents that were “scrubbed” long ago.

The Power Elite still have a few people still alive that have dodged accusations and possible identification as part of the Cover up, e.g., G.W. Bush and a few other INTEL people.

That is why they want an extension of another 25 years which is absurd at this point.

Any person who still believes that LHO acted alone is a hopeless fool.

[wbarmy]

I am sure you mean George H. W. Bush. I doubt George W. Bush could have done much of anything back then.

[Netz]

I stand corrected, Bush the senior...

[cgbg]

The CIA has a big institutional open secret. The documents have been slowly released by FOIA over the years and are available to researchers who make the effort.

They are summarized in this book:

https://www.amazon.com/Oswald-CIA-John-Newman/dp/0786701315

Additional document releases will fill in more of the blanks, and finally leave no alternative to the conclusion that one key figure in the JFK assassination was this man:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Jesus_Angleton

[politicianslie]

Any person who still believes that LHO acted alone is a hopeless fool.

So WHAT IS THE MATH in the JFK assassination?

It turns out there are TWO INDEPENDENT WAYS to determine the time between shots. That is a fact and it is NOT debatable. The confusion starts with the fact that almost ALL JFK "experts", hobbyists, casual observers..... have been convinced that one of the ways to determine the time between shots is NOT valid.

METHOD 1:

The ZAPRUDER FILM was filmed at a speed of 18.3 frames per second (the FBI filmed a clock and then determined the number of frames per second = 18.3).

In the film, there are TWO times that most agree we can see reactions to shots. Immediately after the limo emerges from behind the Stemmon's sign, we see Tex. Gov. John Connally begin a reaction to a shot (frame 224). The most obvious time we can see a reaction to a shot is Zapruder frame 313.

TIME BETWEEN Z313 and Z224 = (313 - 224)/18.3 = 4.8 seconds

SUMMARY FOR THE ZAPRUDER FILM: There is 4.8 seconds between a reaction to a shot by Gov. Connally and the shot to Kennedy's head at Zapruder frame 313.

METHOD 2:

As mentioned earlier, ALMOST EVERYONE believes Method 2 is NOT valid. IT has been viciously attacked as invalid by almost every "academic" that could hold a slide rule in 1963 (upgraded to calculator in the 1970's and today, a computer). It turns out TWO TEAMS of AUDIO EXPERTS were hired by the HSCA to determine IF the sounds of shots were recorded on the only audio recording that MIGHT have captured the sounds of shots. They determined the following shot spacings:

It should be immediately obvious to even the most brain washed American that he time between shots #3 and #4 is 4.8 seconds just like the Zapruder film shows is the time between frames 224 and 313!

IF 4.8 seconds is common to BOTH the Zapruder film AND the audio evidence analysis, then WHY HAVE YOU NOT SEEN THIS FACT BEFORE?

It turns out that the HSCA audio experts published that there were FOUR SHOT patterns found on the audio tape but this figure shows FIVE! WHY THE DIFFERENCE? I assure you that it is way beyond the scope of this posting on FREEREPUBLIC to explain WHY the HSCA published four shots when the data actually showed FIVE shots.

To show that there is enough information out in the public domain to solve the JFK assassination, I put together this video. The video shows one more interval and puts together 4.8 seconds, then BANG-BANG, two shots fired almost on top of each other (the dozens of witnesses who said the last TWO shots were BANG-BANG did NOT hear echoes, those were two separate shots and the audio analysis proves the witnesses were right).

Showing the match between the Zapruder film and the Audio Evidence that has been hidden by the Deep State for over five decades

When you look at the probabilities that there could have been echo patterns on the audio tape made from the dictabelt police recording that showed 4.8 seconds then BANG-BANG exactly like the Zapruder film shows, then you know with certainty that the sounds of the shots were recorded on the dictabelt! Knowing that you know that a conspiracy killed President Kennedy. Soon after that revelation, you can easily see that the US government possesses forged evidence.

How could all of this happen? The only answer that fits is that the conspiracy was run from high in the US gubermint. And even today, the DEEP STATE will tell any lie, forge or destroy any document to hide the truth. You can know the truth if you want to but first, you must prove that you stayed awake when you took high school level algebra. The odds of the echo patterns on the tape recording of the police recording matching the acoustics from actual test shots AND the time between shots matching the Zapruder film show the odds are well over a million to one that the sounds of the shots were recorded. Unless you have seen what I have written about, you likely have never before seen the AND in this statement!

It's so easy to fool Americans, you only have to fool the presstitutes. The presstitutes have proven repeatedly that they may have taken high school level math but if they stayed awake, they did NOT understand any of it.

[ncalburt]

A Lying Larry Saboto alert.
This Dem operative impersonating still play acting a pollster does the DNC bidding .
Recall when he was secretly working for the Webb Senate campaign and hit all the radio/ cable shows trashing the GOP candidate with the usual smears .
A frauds fraud .

[montag813]

This man does NOT want those documents released...

Above: George H.W. Bush making "throat cut" gesture prior to tag-team Cruz-Rubio debate assault on Trump

[Netz]

We are too bogged down in the math, sequences and over-analyzed Zapruder film.

We need (and have needed for a very long time) to breakdown the HUMINT side of this tragic story. We need to focus basically on LHO and his tracking points. His life before during and after his Soviet defection and his operator George de Mohrenschildt. This is the key to finding out the truth if it can be found out at all.

[alternatives?]

Even if they release them all, it won’t show anything. They have had time to create sanitized versions of each document. They won’t make the same mistake CBS did with GWB national guard service that Buckhead discovered.

When they are eventually released the overriding question will be why did they wait so long since there is nothing there. The MSM will spin theories covering for the government,