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Well, with the current laws, I’ve met women who’ve had to pay “support” for an ex-husband who simply refused to work or (in one case) because he couldn’t get a job because he was a child molester. So there’s big incentives for women not to marry as well.

The big problem, in my mind, is that men no longer have pride in fatherhood and no longer want to be fathers. So we get back to the pill again.

Once upon a time, men may not have set out to become fathers, but they did (a very large percentage of births in the New England of the Puritans, for example, were way before 9 months after the marriage) and then they had to marry the woman and they rose to the challenge.

Animal fathers have no interest in their offspring, but one of the distinguishing features of human beings is that they do care, especially if society encourages them to do so.

Our formerly Judeo-Christian society did, but the modern one doesn’t - and neither does Islamic society (I say this for those posters here who seem to be longing to suppress women), in which the wife has no rights at all and the father is frequently the first one to “de-flower” his son. And the father son relationship after that is nothing but hostility, and the relationship with daughters is nothing but getting a commodity ready for the market.

The problem is our new non-Christian culture.

>>Well, with the current laws, I’ve met women who’ve had to pay “support” for an ex-husband who simply refused to work or (in one case) because he couldn’t get a job because he was a child molester.

Is that just an anecdote or are you seriously claiming that this occurs often enough to have statistical significance as a driver for culture?

>>Once upon a time, men may not have set out to become fathers,

Again, this is a half-truth. Men did set out to be fathers in Puritan New England because 1) carrying on the name was important 2) making babies was socially required and 3) it was economically necessary to have farm help and someone to care for you in old age. But, there was the saying that the gestation period for a human is random for the first child and nine months for all the others.

>>The problem is our new non-Christian culture.

You are absolutely right. But that covers most of our problems. If you narrow the focus down to particular causes of men not marrying, then you need to get more specific than “them mens be a’needin’ some Jeezus!”

” I’ve met women who’ve had to pay “support” for an ex-husband who simply refused to work or (in one case) because he couldn’t get a job because he was a child molester.”

wait a second! He was a child molester? So why was he even having the kids anyway???!! Oh hell no what is wrong with the courts? Not only should she not be paying anything but he should be no where near those kids.