[miss marmelstein]

Women's suffrage began at least as far back as the early 18th century in England - it is one of the pillars of the greatness of western civilization. Mary Wollstonecraft, Fanny Kemble, John Stuart Mill, etc. America gave us Susan B. Anthony - an abolitionist and anti-abortion activist.

That it devolved into decadence in the late 20th century and early 21st is typical of all great social movements but does not negate its storied achievements. (Much like the great civil rights movement of the mid-20th century.) Without it we'd be no better than muzzies.

[wardaddy]

One could reasonably argue that even without women’s sufferage we treated women better than Islamic culture does

Just saying

Women vote in most Islamic nations now

I’m ambivalent about women’s sufferage

It certainly worked better when most women were married

[wardaddy]

I think you personally should have multiple voting power

But alas where you live your vote is mostly symbolic

As is mine in the opposite way