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To: BroJoeK
No, when the good judge understands & agrees with the facts of history, then he's brilliant, but when he does not understand or acknowledge the real facts, then he's confused & disoriented, just like you are, Friend.

Wow. Just when I didn't think that your dung pile could get any higher......

Of course, I have several books here covering this subject

I'm sure the NEA would approve of your reading list.

And your outrageous claim that "Lincoln's war" was illegal is laughable in light of the fact that on May 6, 1861

The truth will set you free:

The Jersey City American Standard wrote, "there is a madness and ruthlessness' in Lincoln which is astounding . . . this unarmed vessel . . . is a mere decoy to draw the first fire from the people of the South, which act by the pre-determination of the government is to be the pretext for letting loose the horrors of war." The Providence Daily Post also wrote, "Mr. Lincoln saw an opportunity to inaugurate civil war without appearing in the character of an aggressor."

490 posted on 02/09/2016 8:52:32 AM PST by cowboyway (We're not going to be able to vote our way out of this mess.)
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To: cowboyway; HandyDandy; rockrr
cowboyway quoting Napolitano (2006): " The Providence Daily Post also wrote, 'Mr. Lincoln saw an opportunity to inaugurate civil war without appearing in the character of an aggressor.' "

And, by that same logic, some have accused President Roosevelt of attacking the Japanese and launching WWII at Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941.
How? Analogous to Lincoln, FDR was also warned that moving the US fleet to Pearl Harbor could provoke a Japanese attack, and yet Roosevelt did it anyway.
Is FDR therefore responsible for WWII?
No, the decision for starting war in 1941 belonged strictly to the Japanese, just as in 1861 it belonged to Confederate President Jefferson Davis.

I have not read Napolitano's book, doubtless it's brilliant in overall analysis, and possibly even misrepresented in your quotes here.
But regardless, the historical fact remains that Jefferson Davis made the foolish decision to start war against the United States.
Yes, Lincoln accepted the Confederacy's war, but certainly did not start it.

491 posted on 02/09/2016 10:27:05 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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