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To: DiogenesLamp; rockrr
DiogenesLamp: "There are no "limits" or "conditions" on a natural right.
It is inherent, granted by nature and nature's God, and no one may gainsay it."

So repeats DiogenesLamp, endlessly.
But no Founder ever asserted such a natural, unlimited "right of separation".
Instead, the 1776 Declaration was in response to an itemized list of dozens of, in effect, British breaches of contract, including a formal declaration of war and launching of war against the colonists.

By 1776 Benjamin Franklin alone had spent ten years in Britain trying to negotiate better conditions for colonies within the British Empire.
He was in no sense eager for separation and accepted its necessity only reluctantly, after many years.

Of course, DiogenesLamp's assertion that you believe in an unlimited "right of separation" is just fine: believe whatever you wish, so long as you obey the laws.

But there's no evidence suggesting that's what our Founders believed.

415 posted on 01/31/2016 3:57:06 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: BroJoeK
So repeats DiogenesLamp, endlessly.
But no Founder ever asserted such a natural, unlimited "right of separation".

So repeats BroJoeK endlessly.

Let me make it clear for you. No one has a right to force someone to associate with them. That would be slavery.

No one has to have a good reason to refuse to associate with someone else. It is simply enough that they no longer wish to associate.

I would prefer not to be a member of a coercive state that imposes it's current fad of morality on me.

"Gay Marriage" is but a recent example.

418 posted on 01/31/2016 5:00:36 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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