If true. See with your own eyes.
Posted on 05/23/2015 5:30:48 PM PDT by PapaBear3625
“Not one story of a serious knife wound let alone a fatal one.”
Cossack president says they were set up by the Bandidos.
“At that point in time, the sergeant in arms shot Richie point-blank,” the Cossack said.
Police said Jordan died of a gunshot wound to the head.
“Then all the Bandidos standing in the parking lot started pulling guns and shooting at us,” he said. “There were maybe 60 or 70 of us in the parking lot. We took off running. We scattered. Three of our guys went down instantly. They caught a couple more that tripped and fell, and Bandidos were shooting at them.”
“Possibly not. It looks like it began as a knife brawl if the story of the Cossacks coming in Bandidos guise is the accurate one. So the Bandidos, true to form, didn’t call security; they just started cutting the clothes off the Cossacks. Not one story of a serious knife wound let alone a fatal one.”
Oh. I didn’t notice that that was you posting. Shame. You have been notified of numerous stories of shootings at the scene. I just gave you an account by the Cossack. Care to respond?
If true. See with your own eyes.
Now you’re believing the Cossack. It seems that you are following whatever variation on logic (meaning cutting and pasting reports as you like) lets you keep on bashing?
This would be shameful if so, that Bandidos pretended to have an acceptance of Cossacks in that manner. But it just does not sound like it makes sense. You just don’t accept a rival gang telling you to show up in its colors! Just as easily the Cossacks are lying, all trying to dodge this big pig-led legalized riot.
And in the meantime whatever the debate between Bandidos and Cossacs, there is no excuse whatsoever for holding gospel riders, with allegiance to no 1% club at all (CoC or otherwise) under gang activity accusations, unless they were actually caught partaking in the fighting. It is clearly known and clearly documented that this is not gospel riders’ purpose.
To do that is sheer meanness that is no better than the bad blood that exists between the 1%er groups.
The local cops, supported (and possibly DIRECTED) by the feds in the ATF, FBI and DOJ are involved in trying to cover something terrible up. I’ve never seen such a large number of “civilians” being held on bail so high that they can’t get out. Everything coming out on this “incident” has been coming from police and fed authorities. All of the bikers are, in essence, incommunicado and unable to address the public relations campaign being waged by the ATF and supporting police.
I’m stunned that apparently no habeas corpus hearings have been held to attempt to get at least some of the imprisoned bikers out of jail. Of course, the judge presiding over such hearings could well be the SAME JUDGE who set the 1 million dollar bail for EACH and every biker.
And it’s also somewhat discouraging that the ATF/Police public relations campaign seems to be having some effect in shaping the narrative. Even some FReepers (of the low information, gullible variant) are drinking the kool aid the government is handing out.
“And in the meantime whatever the debate between Bandidos and Cossacs, there is no excuse whatsoever for holding gospel riders, with allegiance to no 1% club at all (CoC or otherwise) under gang activity accusations, unless they were actually caught partaking in the fighting. It is clearly known and clearly documented that this is not gospel riders’ purpose.”
Several clubs had all their members release as soon as the dust cleared. The Att. General has said he has reviewed all the arrests and feels solid about the holding and the bonds.
Can you name which gospel riders not affiliated with 1%’ers that are being held?
“Everything coming out on this “incident” has been coming from police and fed authorities. All of the bikers are, in essence, incommunicado and unable to address the public relations campaign being waged by the ATF and supporting police.”
Cossack account:
“I’m stunned that apparently no habeas corpus hearings have been held to attempt to get at least some of the imprisoned bikers out of jail.”
Att. General has spoken on this. His office has reviewed all the arrests and bond settings. He has spoken about a series of bond hearing that are being held.
We just had a gang war in a family mall with nine dead. You bed with dogs, you expect to pick up a few fleas. Now maybe the decent bikers will quit hanging out with the gangs.
“And it’s also somewhat discouraging that the ATF/Police public relations campaign seems to be having some effect in shaping the narrative. Even some FReepers (of the low information, gullible variant) are drinking the kool aid the government is handing out.”
I have seen no FReepers drinking the LE coolaid. What I have seen is a bunch of anti-cop FReepers ignoring the obvious and ignoring the eye-witness accounts.
“Now you’re believing the Cossack. It seems that you are following whatever variation on logic (meaning cutting and pasting reports as you like) lets you keep on bashing?”
Did I say I believed it? No. I am just bringing you the information as I find it.
I personally think it’s incredible and dumbfounding what happened.I just don’t believe that the Bandidos shot 8 Cossacks. I will wait for the ballistics to come out. we all knew Obama was going to crank things up the last two years. I don’t know how far he is willing to go. I hope I am very wrong on this.
I also don’t want to be a hypocrite. If it was the Bloods and the Crips would i care about the details? I hope i would. 200 guys with million dollar bond being charged with organized crime? It took them forever to build thar case against Gotti. and was one of those shot dead a Vietnam vet Purple Heart winner
“And in the meantime whatever the debate between Bandidos and Cossacs, there is no excuse whatsoever for holding gospel riders, with allegiance to no 1% club at all (CoC or otherwise) under gang activity accusations, “
I have no knowledge of such but do take these with a grain of salt. The source below is about a wife crying because her dear good, non-gang affiliated husband was arrested.
However if you look at his colors he has the three-patch outlaw theme with a diamond-13. I think you know what that means.
This event become more interesting as the fact pattern unfolds.
“.I just don’t believe that the Bandidos shot 8 Cossacks. “
Why not?
Really? You just posted (your post #28 above) a link to yet another source of kook-aid you're gulping down as fast as you can get it.
The link is to an article by the Statist agendanistas’ mouthpiece Washington Post. That article relies on “one ANONYMOUS witness who was present and provides an inside account”. Of course the Post's so-called reporter was unable to verify ANY of this with additional independent credible sources.
So feel free to continue drinking the kool-aid and believing what ONE SIDE is putting out. Hell, maybe you've drank of the kool-aid that the Mayor of Baltimore and the local State's Attorney have been putting out on the Baltimore situation and believe all that. As for me, I'm reserving judgment and will not believe a word they're putting out in Waco until it's supported by evidence and credible information.
The shots were too neat. An encounter of a bunch of liars (whatever they are garbed in) is going to crank out a lot of lies. But certain forensic details will be hard to fake, if at all possible.
Of course you would only pay attention to something like this.
“But certain forensic details will be hard to fake, if at all possible.”
But until the forensics become public, we must ignore all eye-witness and video accounts and just say that the cops ambushed and killed a bunch of nice unstanding guys.
Hogwash!
Lie-witness? Which it appears is more and more the case with everyone wanting to try to save his or her own skin.
“Really? You just posted (your post #28 above) a link to yet another source of kook-aid you’re gulping down as fast as you can get it. The link is to an article by the Statist agendanistas’ mouthpiece Washington Post.”
I linked to the ConservativeTreehouse which several of your pals have said was a solid source.
ConservativeTreehouse has been used here to post a thread which was used to support how the police shot 1000’s of rounds and slaughtered the bikers.
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