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Lies My Teacher Told Me: The True History of the War for Southern Independence
http://www.abbevilleinstitute.org ^ | July 22, 2014 | Clyde Wilson

Posted on 05/12/2015 3:00:03 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

We Sons of Confederate Veterans are charged with preserving the good name of the Confederate soldier. The world, for the most part, has acknowledged what Gen. R. E. Lee described in his farewell address as the “valour and devotion” and “unsurpassed courage and fortitude” of the Confederate soldier. The Stephen D. Lee Institute program is dedicated to that part of our duty that charges us not only to honour the Confederate soldier but “to vindicate the cause for which he fought.” We are here to make the case not only for the Confederate soldier but for his cause. It is useless to proclaim the courage, skill, and sacrifice of the Confederate soldier while permitting him to be guilty of a bad cause.

Although their cause was lost it was a good cause and still has a lot to teach the world today.

In this age of Political Correctness there has never been a greater need and greater opportunity to refresh our understanding of what happened in America in the years 1861–1865 and start defending our Southern forebears as strongly as they ought to be defended. There is plenty of true history available to us. It is our job to make it known.

All the institutions of American society, including nearly all Southern institutions and leaders, are now doing their best to separate the Confederacy off from the rest of American history and push it into one dark little corner labeled “ Slavery and Treason.” Being taught at every level of the educational system is the official party line that everything good that we or anyone believe about our Confederate ancestors is a myth, and by myth they mean a pack of lies that Southerners thought up to excuse their evil deeds and defeat.

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To: x

The Monterey Presidio is pretty nice. I hereby annex it.


261 posted on 05/13/2015 6:03:16 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels." --Tom Waits)
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To: rockrr

Not the men who fought. You know that but your set in your ways. I see the good and bad of both sides. I guess I’m alone in that. I must be a dumb redneck clinging to mt God given rights and the idea that history has been tainted. Your the better man to champion your ideals.


262 posted on 05/13/2015 6:18:10 PM PDT by wgmalabama
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Your right. All those poor fools on both side fought for the high ideals of slavery alone. Of course slavery alone sent half a million men to their death. How simple. I thought it was more complex. I missed it. Thanks for being so enlightning.


263 posted on 05/13/2015 6:21:02 PM PDT by wgmalabama
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To: Secret Agent Man

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

It can be done when the system is broken. You and a few others have managed to condense it to slavery. I wish for such a easy answer. I guess I’m not smart enough but you and the intellectual Giants have set me straight. Thanks. God speed.


264 posted on 05/13/2015 6:23:59 PM PDT by wgmalabama
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To: rockrr

Of course you don’t. Nor the million of other paper cuts that get inflicted. May the chains rest lightly on us both.


265 posted on 05/13/2015 6:26:00 PM PDT by wgmalabama
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To: wgmalabama

Well I will say that you have the drama queen part down pat. ;’)


266 posted on 05/13/2015 6:28:16 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: x
“Lincoln behaved largely as we'd expect a US president to behave if the country is threatened.”

Lincoln behaved largely as I would expect a big government president to act given the opportunity to further expand big government. To your (good) list of Grant, Roosevelt, Clinton and Bush, add Bush, Obama, and - unless the nation lapses into sanity - Clinton.

267 posted on 05/13/2015 6:46:25 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: jmacusa

Yep


268 posted on 05/13/2015 6:52:32 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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To: wgmalabama

They had other reasons but many were directly or indirectly tied to slavery.

You can be sarcastic hut it doesnt change a horrible reason for attempting secession. I was not talking down to you or slamming you yet you felt sarcasm was an earned response. Done with the conversation, you don’t have to reply back.


269 posted on 05/13/2015 7:15:35 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: central_va

So that’s how you tickle your adenoids. Kinky.


270 posted on 05/13/2015 7:31:00 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr

“The slavocracy (Washington, Jefferson, et al.) disrespected those hallowed words and the men who wrote them.”

You do know that the British were messin’ with the peculiar institution in the colonies and that interference was one of the reasons cited in the Declaration of Independence for the secession of the colonies?


271 posted on 05/13/2015 8:09:46 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: NKP_Vet
The most basic simple fact about the War is that it was a war of invasion and conquest.

This is about the dumbest thing I've see posted on FR.

If the South had freed the slaves prior to seceding the will to fight and preserve the Union would have dissipated after the first Bull Run. The war was the result of Christian abolitionists succeeding at the polls.

272 posted on 05/13/2015 8:24:51 PM PDT by wmfights (a stranger in a hostile and foreign land that used to be my home)
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To: jeffersondem

The Colonialists didn’t “secede” - they openly rebelled.


273 posted on 05/13/2015 8:30:54 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: wmfights

The war - and 600,000 deaths - could have been avoided entirely if the north had put together a workable plan to pass a constitutional amendment to eliminate slavery peacefully. By that I mean if their goal was to eliminate slavery. Peacefully.


274 posted on 05/13/2015 8:42:59 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: rockrr

Whatever it was, the colonialists “dissolved the political bands.”

You do know that one of the reasons the colonialists rebelled was British interference with the peculiar institution? It’s in the Declaration of Independence. Look it up.


275 posted on 05/13/2015 8:55:19 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: jeffersondem

They tried - the south would listen.


276 posted on 05/13/2015 9:00:47 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: jeffersondem

Wow, fascinating.


277 posted on 05/13/2015 9:01:34 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr

would=wouldn’t


278 posted on 05/13/2015 9:02:52 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr

“They tried - the south wouldn’t listen.”

After days of discussion, we come to the truth. The north didn’t have the votes to pass a constitutional amendment in a legal, peaceful way so Lincoln used the federal military to invade, kill, and disenfrancise. In other words, to trample the constitution.

“They tried, the south wouldn’t listen.”


279 posted on 05/13/2015 9:39:31 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: Secret Agent Man

It is inaccurate that the murder of slaves was not considered a crime. It was legally murder and white men were executed for such murders.

To be sure, juries tended to be very sympathetic to white men in such cases. Prosecutions were rare and often probably not very enthusiastic.

But it’s just untrue that such killings were legal.


280 posted on 05/13/2015 9:57:25 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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