Posted on 03/03/2015 12:32:27 PM PST by two134711
Thank you Free Republic for allowing me to post and vent on this site for over ten years. I am a young, married conservative woman who is trying to raise her daughter to be a fine, upstanding lady, an educated woman and a worthy wife to a decent man. Despite the stupidity of my generation (I am on the cusp of GenX and GenY) there is hope. Many young people are more prolife than ever. And at last, many others are beginning to open their eyes to the lies of socialism.
However recent events on this site like witnessing the discord between fellow believers of Christ and how the Religious moderators have given carte blanche to those who wish to spread hate is not something I want to be part of.
I received this message from the Religion Moderator regarding Key words received 03/02/2015 8:45:19 PM PST
“DO NOT use keywords to snipe at other posters or beliefs. RM”
I certainly did not post key words that sniped at anyone; they were terms such as "enough already,” “Christianity,” “unity” and "peace." Now, yes, the comments I made were invectives thrown at posters. I don't deny that; but they deserved every word directed at them and more. Outside of Caucus threads the religious forum is based on sniping at posters and insulting other's beliefs. Mostly it’s a few alleged “Evangelicals” damning those Papists, pedophiles, pagans, cracker-eaters, cannibals and Mary-worshipping heretics to Hell if they don't convert to the Western Branch of American Reform Presbylutheranism or the Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879. Then a very small contingent of Catholics tries to fight back.
These are the kind of comments are allowed on the religious forums without any moderation.
"I believe that Catholicism has caused more people to go to hell then [sic] Islam."
84 posted on 2/23/2015, 2:36:42 PM by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
AND
**Have you accepted the Catholic Church** "I have accepted Jesus. Not some abomination created by man."
98 posted on 2/23/2015, 2:46:17 PM by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a minister of the Gospel like Captain Crunch is a Naval line officer.)
I have no skin in this game other than to realize that Christians (and Jews) are not each other’s enemies. There is a much more diabolical force in this world that should be fought. Anti-theists, Islamists, secular amoralists, etc., they're nothing. But, hey, keep going after Catholics and Mormons because they're the ones ruining the world today!
I said those words because it was the truth, (a truth that many others see but do not mention; they merely avoid the conflicts). If the anti-Catholic delusional bigots have a problem with the truth, then a pox on their houses.
I have posted on and off this site for over ten years. Every time I come back here I think to myself, “Wow, FR is one of the only sites telling it like it is when it comes to politics!” But then the OCD religious posters take control over and over again. It’s not just the religious forums, but they’re the worst. In the past the moderation was far more even-handed. Now it’s out of control. Please use more judiciousness in moderating them in the future.
You are losing members left and right and your fundraisers take months to complete. I am aware that the owner of this site, Mr. Robinson, is a Catholic, and I’m sure it breaks his heart to see such infighting amongst fellow Christians. I hope his health betters and that he can continue to fight the goof fight.
Nevertheless, FR's days as a premium conservative site are over. There a quite a few decent folks around here like Mrs. Don-0, xzins, Morgana, miss marmelstein, wardaddy, that fellow named something like yefrugeturbrumuy, and lots of others. There are many good folks with diverse opinions and no malice in their hearts.
But some others seem possessed by other-world forces. Mostly they're old people scared of death, wanting to make sure they get in with God before the end, desperate to hold on to every penny they've ever come across, willing to kvetch about the future and frequently mentioning how glad they'll be when they're dead and won't have to deal with this world, while their children and grandchildren will. Or worse, they actively wish for the world to end today or soon. Sorry, I'm young enough to have a smidgen of hope despite the moral disaster this world is in.
The Apple squabbles, the griping about TV and art, heck even the "my candidate is better than your candidate" bloodletting is nothing compared to the nutters that run rampant on the religion forum.
So Religious moderator, if you thought my key words were examples of “sniping,” then I suppose this post was outright bashing. Every time I come to this site I get angry. Anger opens up the heart to dark forces; it’s best not to be part of that.
Got to go. May peace come to this once wonderful site and make it a place of harmony for future posters.
How very cool!
And Amen to your last paragraph
Oh; I know how; just didn’t think it necessary.
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Catholics would get out a knife; if they applied the same rules to it as they do they oft mentioned...
...this is by body...
The blood of Jesus cleanes me...
Me, being retired, have PLENTY of time to challenge the false teachers.
I consider it a mission field.
Well; they got Francis.
That ain't sittin' too well with a LOT of our FR Catholics.
When the boss is on yer case at work; ya come home and kick the dog.
Well; I could do a search to see how many have been ex-communicated or in other ways sent into the wilderness.
Are Catholics required to follow those "rules?"
Out of the abundance of the heart; the mouth speaks."
Do they have to be believed by non Catholics like the Catholic rule that ALL people must be subjected to the pope?
I have no clue of some of the intricate workings of the Roman Catholic Church.
storm prepper; have you had an experience like this?
How about Normandy, teppe??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkUnyXkT5FQ
Mean?
It was downright HATEFUL!!!!
I understand, and I think that’s useful from the standpoint of the other readers. It’s important that they understand what a cult group is about.
But I think it’s TOTALLY USELESS from the standpoint of that person who is actually promoting and propagating that false doctrine. If that was the only person involved, you would be wasting your time. Fortunately, in this setting of Free Republic, there is a large audience merely reading. It’s useful for them.
I do think all the other readers here need to be made aware of these false teachings and false doctrines of the cult groups ... those false teachers whom Jesus will immediately kill and then throw into the lake of fire (Rev. 20) when he returns to this earth.
Then why send out missionairies?
Are they facing this DOD thing every day?
If it's not about Jesus; what else is there?
These doctrines MUST be fought on EVERY front.
I tend to think that 'all' means ALL!
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.
The Lord wishes that ALL come to the saving faith through His Son ... but He KNOWS that they “all” won’t. That states his intent but it doesn’t state the actual outcome.
According to the ACTUAL OUTCOME there are many for whom it is TOTALLY USELESS. Again ... that’s the outcome, and not the stated “desire”.
It’s easy to tell who is USELESS in that regard and who is not. The ones who are actually teaching and propagating these false “doctrines of demons” ... and bringing others into this cult group are the ones who are of their father the Devil. They are actively recruiting and bringing others into the cult and defending these doctrines of demons.
Keep in mind, that in defending and propagating these evil doctrines they have BEEN GIVEN the true Word of God SO MANY TIMES, it’s WAY PAST the point of whether they have heard or not. We are NOT RESPONSIBLE to “make sure” that someone else BELIEVES the true Word of God, we’re only responsible to give the person this message of the Gospel. And of that person “has been given” that Gospel ... the JOB IS DONE as far as our part.
Too many people seem to think it’s not only their part to give them the Gospel ... BUT ... it’s also their responsibility to MAKE SURE THEY BELIEVE IT.
SO ... with these people who are actually teaching and recruiting and propagating these Doctrines of Demons ... they have not just heard the Gospel once, they have not just heard it twice, and they have not just heard it 100 times ... they could actually repeat it back to you exactly as you give it to them! The problem is NOT that they have not been given the Gospel, it’s that they have totally rejected it and are actively propagating the Doctrines of Demons and bringing more into the cult group.
It is TOTALLY USELESS to “give them the Gospel” ... not because they should not be given the Gospel, but that they have been given it 100 times and more and they have chosen the Devil as their Father, instead!
That is why it is useless.
AGAIN ... the duty is to give the Gospel to people ... but NOT to force them to believe. You can’t do that and you can’t “save them” and “saving them” is not your responsibility anyway. That’s God’s responsibility.
So once that person who has been given the Gospel, your job is done as far as that responsibility is concerned.
Now with others, they are not like that. They are not propagating the doctrines of demons but they have been deceived into believing those false teaching and doctrines. They are willing to find out who Jesus is and what he has done in order to effect their salvation and they will listen. They will not be recruiting others into the cult and insisting on continuing to propagate these Doctrines of Demons. They will not be rejecting the Gospel that they are being presented. They are not useless. But even with them, you are not “saving them” even when presenting the Gospel ... it is God who saves, it is God who opens their hearts (not you) and it is God who hardens them (others), just like he did with Pharaoh.
When I am asked, “Why didn’t you present the Gospel to them.” I can say, “I did and they rejected it!” If someone asks further, “why didn’t you keep pestering them until they gave in?” ... I can say, “That’s not my job!”
To sum it all up, I can tell you in about five minutes of posting WHO you’re wasting your time with ... I can present the Gospel and if they reject it ... YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME!
You have done exactly what you are supposed to do (in five minutes or less) and you have NO RESPONSIBILITY to harangue them or force them to believe (even of you could, which you can’t). FURTHERMORE, I can pretty well tell you that those same people who will reject it from you (in you giving them the Gospel) will have rejected it a hundred times before, and it’s not any Biblical command that you must force them to believe or harangue them into believing.
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HOWEVER ... and as I said before ... in a group situation or on a forum, it is “useful” talking to those who are USELESS ... only because OTHERS are reading and they are listening.
Those people who have already REJECTED the Gospel are TOTALLY USLESS and they are LOST and are definitely on their way to the lake of fire and there is nothing you can do about it - and there is nothing you are supposed to do about it, other than what you did in presenting the Gospel. THEY are GONE!
“YOU” can do absolutely nothing about it, although God “may” at some future time, but that’s not “you” ... that’s God.
So, it’s those OTHERS who are reading and “listening” and “accepting” who can benefit!
I’ll add one more thing here ... as I didn’t want to include it in the previous post.
You asked, “Then why send out missionaries?”
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Very simply ... for every one of those TOTALLY USELESS ones who are perpetrating these Doctrines of Demons, there are probably a couple of hundred or more who are not doing that and are deceived and have not heard the true Gospel from the Bible.
That’s why ... :-) ...
When he was younger, did Billy Graham preach the doctrine of demons?
I don’t know ... I never saw him when he was younger. Perhaps you can fill us in.
I was asking you...if Billy Graham during his preaching career preached the doctrine of demons. Surely you heard him at some point in time, didn’t you?
I have no idea what Billy Graham has preached over the span of his career. And, I have not tracked him either. I have rarely heard him (perhaps two or three times) and have never seen him, directly, in any big event. I have not ever even studied what he preaches on exactly. I can only speak to those few times that I have seen him. So, what I post below is in that limited context.
Those Doctrines of Demons that I mentioned to the other poster here (and in another thread) and which I was talking about ... were these ... that as we are now, God once was, and as God is now, we will become ... and that Jesus is the spirit brother of Satan ... and that we (if we are good and faithful) will become a God of our own world ... and that there are additional sources of authority (other than the 66 books of the Bible, written by 40 authors over a period of a few thousand years) ... ARE NOT what I heard Billy Graham preaching on. So, I would say no to that.
HOWEVER, if you are aware of something more than me with Billy Graham, feel free to enlighten us.
SO AGAIN ... I don’t follow Billy Graham, even though I’m aware of him and I have not ever studied him ... as I’ve never had an inclination to do so. You seem to have “something in mind” for Billy Graham, and so perhaps you have followed him much more than I have.
I would like to know what it is that you’re seeing there, with Billy Graham.
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