Posted on 03/03/2015 12:32:27 PM PST by two134711
How very cool!
And Amen to your last paragraph
Oh; I know how; just didn’t think it necessary.
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Catholics would get out a knife; if they applied the same rules to it as they do they oft mentioned...
...this is by body...
The blood of Jesus cleanes me...
Me, being retired, have PLENTY of time to challenge the false teachers.
I consider it a mission field.
Well; they got Francis.
That ain't sittin' too well with a LOT of our FR Catholics.
When the boss is on yer case at work; ya come home and kick the dog.
Well; I could do a search to see how many have been ex-communicated or in other ways sent into the wilderness.
Are Catholics required to follow those "rules?"
Out of the abundance of the heart; the mouth speaks."
Do they have to be believed by non Catholics like the Catholic rule that ALL people must be subjected to the pope?
I have no clue of some of the intricate workings of the Roman Catholic Church.
storm prepper; have you had an experience like this?
How about Normandy, teppe??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkUnyXkT5FQ
Mean?
It was downright HATEFUL!!!!
I understand, and I think that’s useful from the standpoint of the other readers. It’s important that they understand what a cult group is about.
But I think it’s TOTALLY USELESS from the standpoint of that person who is actually promoting and propagating that false doctrine. If that was the only person involved, you would be wasting your time. Fortunately, in this setting of Free Republic, there is a large audience merely reading. It’s useful for them.
I do think all the other readers here need to be made aware of these false teachings and false doctrines of the cult groups ... those false teachers whom Jesus will immediately kill and then throw into the lake of fire (Rev. 20) when he returns to this earth.
Then why send out missionairies?
Are they facing this DOD thing every day?
If it's not about Jesus; what else is there?
These doctrines MUST be fought on EVERY front.
I tend to think that 'all' means ALL!
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.
The Lord wishes that ALL come to the saving faith through His Son ... but He KNOWS that they “all” won’t. That states his intent but it doesn’t state the actual outcome.
According to the ACTUAL OUTCOME there are many for whom it is TOTALLY USELESS. Again ... that’s the outcome, and not the stated “desire”.
It’s easy to tell who is USELESS in that regard and who is not. The ones who are actually teaching and propagating these false “doctrines of demons” ... and bringing others into this cult group are the ones who are of their father the Devil. They are actively recruiting and bringing others into the cult and defending these doctrines of demons.
Keep in mind, that in defending and propagating these evil doctrines they have BEEN GIVEN the true Word of God SO MANY TIMES, it’s WAY PAST the point of whether they have heard or not. We are NOT RESPONSIBLE to “make sure” that someone else BELIEVES the true Word of God, we’re only responsible to give the person this message of the Gospel. And of that person “has been given” that Gospel ... the JOB IS DONE as far as our part.
Too many people seem to think it’s not only their part to give them the Gospel ... BUT ... it’s also their responsibility to MAKE SURE THEY BELIEVE IT.
SO ... with these people who are actually teaching and recruiting and propagating these Doctrines of Demons ... they have not just heard the Gospel once, they have not just heard it twice, and they have not just heard it 100 times ... they could actually repeat it back to you exactly as you give it to them! The problem is NOT that they have not been given the Gospel, it’s that they have totally rejected it and are actively propagating the Doctrines of Demons and bringing more into the cult group.
It is TOTALLY USELESS to “give them the Gospel” ... not because they should not be given the Gospel, but that they have been given it 100 times and more and they have chosen the Devil as their Father, instead!
That is why it is useless.
AGAIN ... the duty is to give the Gospel to people ... but NOT to force them to believe. You can’t do that and you can’t “save them” and “saving them” is not your responsibility anyway. That’s God’s responsibility.
So once that person who has been given the Gospel, your job is done as far as that responsibility is concerned.
Now with others, they are not like that. They are not propagating the doctrines of demons but they have been deceived into believing those false teaching and doctrines. They are willing to find out who Jesus is and what he has done in order to effect their salvation and they will listen. They will not be recruiting others into the cult and insisting on continuing to propagate these Doctrines of Demons. They will not be rejecting the Gospel that they are being presented. They are not useless. But even with them, you are not “saving them” even when presenting the Gospel ... it is God who saves, it is God who opens their hearts (not you) and it is God who hardens them (others), just like he did with Pharaoh.
When I am asked, “Why didn’t you present the Gospel to them.” I can say, “I did and they rejected it!” If someone asks further, “why didn’t you keep pestering them until they gave in?” ... I can say, “That’s not my job!”
To sum it all up, I can tell you in about five minutes of posting WHO you’re wasting your time with ... I can present the Gospel and if they reject it ... YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME!
You have done exactly what you are supposed to do (in five minutes or less) and you have NO RESPONSIBILITY to harangue them or force them to believe (even of you could, which you can’t). FURTHERMORE, I can pretty well tell you that those same people who will reject it from you (in you giving them the Gospel) will have rejected it a hundred times before, and it’s not any Biblical command that you must force them to believe or harangue them into believing.
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HOWEVER ... and as I said before ... in a group situation or on a forum, it is “useful” talking to those who are USELESS ... only because OTHERS are reading and they are listening.
Those people who have already REJECTED the Gospel are TOTALLY USLESS and they are LOST and are definitely on their way to the lake of fire and there is nothing you can do about it - and there is nothing you are supposed to do about it, other than what you did in presenting the Gospel. THEY are GONE!
“YOU” can do absolutely nothing about it, although God “may” at some future time, but that’s not “you” ... that’s God.
So, it’s those OTHERS who are reading and “listening” and “accepting” who can benefit!
I’ll add one more thing here ... as I didn’t want to include it in the previous post.
You asked, “Then why send out missionaries?”
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Very simply ... for every one of those TOTALLY USELESS ones who are perpetrating these Doctrines of Demons, there are probably a couple of hundred or more who are not doing that and are deceived and have not heard the true Gospel from the Bible.
That’s why ... :-) ...
When he was younger, did Billy Graham preach the doctrine of demons?
I don’t know ... I never saw him when he was younger. Perhaps you can fill us in.
I was asking you...if Billy Graham during his preaching career preached the doctrine of demons. Surely you heard him at some point in time, didn’t you?
I have no idea what Billy Graham has preached over the span of his career. And, I have not tracked him either. I have rarely heard him (perhaps two or three times) and have never seen him, directly, in any big event. I have not ever even studied what he preaches on exactly. I can only speak to those few times that I have seen him. So, what I post below is in that limited context.
Those Doctrines of Demons that I mentioned to the other poster here (and in another thread) and which I was talking about ... were these ... that as we are now, God once was, and as God is now, we will become ... and that Jesus is the spirit brother of Satan ... and that we (if we are good and faithful) will become a God of our own world ... and that there are additional sources of authority (other than the 66 books of the Bible, written by 40 authors over a period of a few thousand years) ... ARE NOT what I heard Billy Graham preaching on. So, I would say no to that.
HOWEVER, if you are aware of something more than me with Billy Graham, feel free to enlighten us.
SO AGAIN ... I don’t follow Billy Graham, even though I’m aware of him and I have not ever studied him ... as I’ve never had an inclination to do so. You seem to have “something in mind” for Billy Graham, and so perhaps you have followed him much more than I have.
I would like to know what it is that you’re seeing there, with Billy Graham.
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