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Thanks for the memories, but it's time for Christians to unite not fight
self | 3/2/2015 | two134711

Posted on 03/03/2015 12:32:27 PM PST by two134711

Thank you Free Republic for allowing me to post and vent on this site for over ten years. I am a young, married conservative woman who is trying to raise her daughter to be a fine, upstanding lady, an educated woman and a worthy wife to a decent man. Despite the stupidity of my generation (I am on the cusp of GenX and GenY) there is hope. Many young people are more prolife than ever. And at last, many others are beginning to open their eyes to the lies of socialism.

However recent events on this site like witnessing the discord between fellow believers of Christ and how the Religious moderators have given carte blanche to those who wish to spread hate is not something I want to be part of.

I received this message from the Religion Moderator regarding Key words received 03/02/2015 8:45:19 PM PST

“DO NOT use keywords to snipe at other posters or beliefs. RM”

I certainly did not post key words that sniped at anyone; they were terms such as "enough already,” “Christianity,” “unity” and "peace." Now, yes, the comments I made were invectives thrown at posters. I don't deny that; but they deserved every word directed at them and more. Outside of Caucus threads the religious forum is based on sniping at posters and insulting other's beliefs. Mostly it’s a few alleged “Evangelicals” damning those Papists, pedophiles, pagans, cracker-eaters, cannibals and Mary-worshipping heretics to Hell if they don't convert to the Western Branch of American Reform Presbylutheranism or the Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879. Then a very small contingent of Catholics tries to fight back.

These are the kind of comments are allowed on the religious forums without any moderation.

"I believe that Catholicism has caused more people to go to hell then [sic] Islam."
84 posted on 2/23/2015, 2:36:42 PM by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)

AND

**Have you accepted the Catholic Church** "I have accepted Jesus. Not some abomination created by man."
98 posted on 2/23/2015, 2:46:17 PM by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a minister of the Gospel like Captain Crunch is a Naval line officer.)

I have no skin in this game other than to realize that Christians (and Jews) are not each other’s enemies. There is a much more diabolical force in this world that should be fought. Anti-theists, Islamists, secular amoralists, etc., they're nothing. But, hey, keep going after Catholics and Mormons because they're the ones ruining the world today!

I said those words because it was the truth, (a truth that many others see but do not mention; they merely avoid the conflicts). If the anti-Catholic delusional bigots have a problem with the truth, then a pox on their houses.

I have posted on and off this site for over ten years. Every time I come back here I think to myself, “Wow, FR is one of the only sites telling it like it is when it comes to politics!” But then the OCD religious posters take control over and over again. It’s not just the religious forums, but they’re the worst. In the past the moderation was far more even-handed. Now it’s out of control. Please use more judiciousness in moderating them in the future.

You are losing members left and right and your fundraisers take months to complete. I am aware that the owner of this site, Mr. Robinson, is a Catholic, and I’m sure it breaks his heart to see such infighting amongst fellow Christians. I hope his health betters and that he can continue to fight the goof fight.

Nevertheless, FR's days as a premium conservative site are over. There a quite a few decent folks around here like Mrs. Don-0, xzins, Morgana, miss marmelstein, wardaddy, that fellow named something like yefrugeturbrumuy, and lots of others. There are many good folks with diverse opinions and no malice in their hearts.

But some others seem possessed by other-world forces. Mostly they're old people scared of death, wanting to make sure they get in with God before the end, desperate to hold on to every penny they've ever come across, willing to kvetch about the future and frequently mentioning how glad they'll be when they're dead and won't have to deal with this world, while their children and grandchildren will. Or worse, they actively wish for the world to end today or soon. Sorry, I'm young enough to have a smidgen of hope despite the moral disaster this world is in.

The Apple squabbles, the griping about TV and art, heck even the "my candidate is better than your candidate" bloodletting is nothing compared to the nutters that run rampant on the religion forum.

So Religious moderator, if you thought my key words were examples of “sniping,” then I suppose this post was outright bashing. Every time I come to this site I get angry. Anger opens up the heart to dark forces; it’s best not to be part of that.

Got to go. May peace come to this once wonderful site and make it a place of harmony for future posters.


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To: goodwithagun
Also, I’m not sure what your thanking me for. Whatever. Get help.

I was thanking you in advance of your future learning of how to communicate more understandably in your FR responses to those FReepers with whom you disagree.

Okay, I retract my thanks in light of your more recent response that indicates you have no intention of treating certain other Freepers with more civility in the future without resorting to directives and slurs.

But back to the subject...what was it?
401 posted on 03/09/2015 9:07:10 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Cicero
>>Catholics in the forum do not make it their business to attack Protestants.<<

Um...what? LOL

>>You believe in Christ? So do we.<<

But the Jesus Catholics believe in sinned by eating blood.

>>at least they and their churches can be as Christian as possible.<<

As Christian as possible? A Christian is a follower of Christ alone. Not some errant teachings of some organization which are not found in God's word.

>>Virtuous pagans have long been thought capable of heaven<<

Not by Christ of the apostles.

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

402 posted on 03/09/2015 9:10:58 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: goodwithagun
You’ve never heard that phrase issued to somebody that has dug themselves into a hole? You’re trying to gloss over the original comment about Islam and Catholicism with the lame excuse of opinion. It doesn’t work. FReepers have seen the poster for what he really is, and now they’ve seen you for what you are because you’re defending him. I don’t argue with crazy people, and in my OPINION you are crazy. I’ll no longer converse with you. Peace.

Yes, I've heard that phrase but you took your time telling me what you meant by "Stop". You did not use the word "digging" until later.

I was and am defending any and all FReepers' (including yours) right to post an opinion without censorship, as long as no RF guidelines are passed over.

You never posted what I was "glossing over". I think the problem is that portions of your thoughts to me were kept to yourself and not posted to me. Now, I can understand what you are saying.
403 posted on 03/09/2015 9:15:34 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Cicero
Then I went to an Episcopal Prep School, and that was High Church. And while at Harvard I went what they called Mass at the Cowley Fathers’ Church in Cambridge, which was very High Church.

Thank you for volunteering that. I see that you were always near or on the cusp of becoming a Catholic. Now you have a pope to watch over you.
404 posted on 03/09/2015 9:19:05 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Lonely Bull; Religion Moderator
One other note here, which I also find interesting, is that the policies of the Religion Moderator also seem to prevent the use of "you fool" as a term of address in the Religion Forum.

Unless something is SPELLED OUT, then I am NOT about to read between the lines and try to put words into the RM's text.


Oh you FOOLISH Galatians!

Who has bewitched you?

Galatians 3:1

405 posted on 03/09/2015 10:41:35 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Neither side has "clean hands" in this and it has caused a lot of anger and angst.

Only ONE side had UNCLEAN hands that caused a Catholic priest to try to get Rome's attention with a list of 95 things nailed to a church door!

406 posted on 03/09/2015 10:43:27 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Resettozero
You've directed me to stop...what? Posting here? Stop generally what?
407 posted on 03/09/2015 10:45:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Religion Moderator
There is no log entry indicating that it was moved here.

So; two134711 placed in in the Smoky Backroom to begin with.

Interesting....

408 posted on 03/09/2015 10:47:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Nailed it!

Amazing how consistent human nature is.


409 posted on 03/09/2015 10:52:19 AM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: CynicalBear

Well, “LOL” is an amusing answer.

But the fact is, nevertheless, that a small group of Catholic-hating Protestants post anti-Catholic threads several times a day, but Catholics rarely if ever post anti-Protestant threads.

They simply respond to these constant Protestant attacks.

That’s the fact.


410 posted on 03/09/2015 10:53:00 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: MamaB

I’ve had BOTH retinas re-attached.

I had NO clue as to what the results would be.

I have good vision (other than crummy len’s and a touch of cataract) now.

But the doc told me that the new laser treatment could not reach around far enough in my eyes to tack weld them back in place, and the old freezing procedure would be used. A small probe is pressed against the eyeball and a very fine blast of liquid nitrogen is used to freeze the retina to the outer surface. It will then regrow to it.

Let me tell you; if offered the painkiller afterward; do NOT be a macho dude and refuse it!

It’s right up there with kidney stones!!!


411 posted on 03/09/2015 10:54:30 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cicero
An amusing story:

Oh?

About someone who won't stand up for what he really believes?

412 posted on 03/09/2015 10:56:32 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: goodwithagun
I don’t argue with crazy people, and in my OPINION you are crazy.

Nice JUDGMENT call.

413 posted on 03/09/2015 10:57:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Thank you.


414 posted on 03/09/2015 11:01:12 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Cicero
But the fact is, nevertheless, that a small group of Catholic-hating Protestants post anti-Catholic threads several times a day, but Catholics rarely if ever post anti-Protestant threads.

But the fact is, nevertheless, that a small group of Catholics post Catholic loving threads several times a day, but FAIL to put them in a safe, warm and fuzzy CAUCUS area. Then they whine when people who KNOW what the bible says, point out Catholic specific teachings, calling them ANTI-biblical and unnecessary.

415 posted on 03/09/2015 11:01:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cicero
But the fact is, nevertheless, that a small group of Catholic-hating Protestants post anti-Catholic threads several times a day, but Catholics rarely if ever post anti-Protestant threads.

Unless...

...your stated fact is, in fact, an error or, at least, an unprovable accusation.
416 posted on 03/09/2015 11:04:10 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Elsie
...that a small group of Catholics post Catholic loving threads several times a day, but FAIL to put them in a safe, warm and fuzzy CAUCUS area. Then they whine...

Looks that way to me. They invite a fight and then whine when someone takes them up on it.

417 posted on 03/09/2015 11:06:22 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Elsie

I have had kidney stones. The pain is up there with childbirth. : (


418 posted on 03/09/2015 11:08:27 AM PDT by MamaB
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To: jjotto
They invite a fight and then whine when someone takes them up on it.

When faced with a true statement of rebuttal, a few do more than merely whine; some start swinging wildly.
419 posted on 03/09/2015 11:08:59 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: MamaB
I have had kidney stones. The pain is up there with childbirth. : (

I agree.
420 posted on 03/09/2015 11:12:05 AM PDT by Resettozero
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