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800 babies buried in septic tank at Irish home for unmarried mothers
AFP/Dublin/Yahoo News ^ | 06/042014 | unknown

Posted on 06/04/2014 9:51:45 PM PDT by boatbums

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To: narses

When reason and logic escape you, post the stupid cartoons??? No doubt you failed to notice, this isn’t a Religion Forum thread and I posted a Scripture verse without ANY PIOS. Keep it up with the knee-jerk reaction - I hope you don’t imagine nobody sees what you’re trying to do.


141 posted on 06/05/2014 7:40:51 PM PDT by boatbums (Proud member of the Free Republic Bible Thumpers Brigade.)
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To: boatbums
I'm trying to decide between building my own pine box and being in this cemetery which is just what it looks like, extremely casual.
Few people even know that it is still in operation, it is old cowboy style burying, it will be here or in a veteran's cemetary.

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142 posted on 06/05/2014 7:48:00 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: boatbums

Throwing bodies in a septic tank is mere disposal. Criminals have been known to do it to hide dead bodies. A proper Christian burial is to be expected from an organization run by nuns and the Catholic Church, whether or not they were poor. I have very poor ancestors who were buried in a handmade pine box with a fieldstone for a grave marker during the Civil War. It didn’t enter their minds to just dump the body somewhere. The rationalizations of the faithful here are actually shameful. This was not good, it was wrong. The Irish who discovered it were shocked. To listen to some of the excuses made here, the Irish shouldn’t have even batted an eye, rolling naked dead bodies into whatever crack or crevice was just what they did. Rather insulting to the Irish, if you ask me. It never ceases to amaze me, the lengths some will go to.


143 posted on 06/05/2014 7:53:57 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: boatbums

144 posted on 06/05/2014 7:55:10 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: boatbums

145 posted on 06/05/2014 7:56:55 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: narses

You’re reminding me more and more of Quix, but he at least had a sense of humor.


146 posted on 06/05/2014 7:58:40 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: ansel12
I really think some people must fly into a raging fit whenever they see something that hints at criticism of "their" church. They will try every trick in the book to get the thread off the topic, impugn the motives of those who either post the threads or react differently than they do, and then rationalize and justify what is being reported - BEFORE the whole story even comes out. We are supposed to forget all about the nearly one thousand innocent children who died and were thrown out like garbage and, instead, presume those who did such things had to have had nothing but pure and loving reasons for doing so.

People who DID live in the town with that "home" recount their own stories of how the children were treated by the Catholic Church, the townspeople and the government. I haven't read much that hints at these kids having compassionate care from those who took it upon themselves to take their expectant mothers in (many women who, contrary to the knee-jerks, had no place else to go after becoming pregnant after rape). These women were forced to work and their children sold into indentured servitude or adopted without their mother's consent. Nobody, according to the report, even knew the origins of the mass grave - they thought it contained people who died a hundred years earlier in a famine. It sounds like a horrible and miserable place. With all the vast wealth in the Roman Catholic Church, I don't think it is illogical to expect them to take care of those they agree to help. Babies and little children should not have to starve to death WHILE in the care of such places. It really IS shameful and those who defend what happened only demonstrate the SAME cold-hearted and uncompassionate attitude of those who were directly in charge, who allowed these atrocities to take place. It certainly DID NOT honor the Lord.

147 posted on 06/05/2014 8:05:56 PM PDT by boatbums (Proud member of the Free Republic Bible Thumpers Brigade.)
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To: boatbums

Lighten up Francis.


148 posted on 06/05/2014 8:09:53 PM PDT by infool7 (The ugly truth is just a big lie.)
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To: ansel12
I've told my husband that I want anything that can help someone else to be donated when I die (eyes, kidneys, lungs, liver, skin, etc.) What's leftover can be simply buried in a cheap pine box so the worms can eat the rest. No big fancy funeral, just a family get together with lots of good food and fond memories. ;o)

The new glorified body God has for me will have no need for the old, flesh shell and I will have eternity to rejoice in God my Savior and praise His blessed name forever.

149 posted on 06/05/2014 8:13:49 PM PDT by boatbums (Proud member of the Free Republic Bible Thumpers Brigade.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

I agree. Thanks for your input.


150 posted on 06/05/2014 8:15:16 PM PDT by boatbums (Proud member of the Free Republic Bible Thumpers Brigade.)
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To: infool7

Gee, infool7, it’s kinda hard to lighten up about something so terrible. Are you cool with what went on?


151 posted on 06/05/2014 8:18:12 PM PDT by boatbums (Proud member of the Free Republic Bible Thumpers Brigade.)
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To: boatbums

What exactly was it that “went on” Francis, were you there?


152 posted on 06/05/2014 8:20:33 PM PDT by infool7 (The ugly truth is just a big lie.)
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To: infool7

All the crap going on in the world today and this is the hobby horse you want to climb on and ride sally ride, well go ahead pal, welcome to the party and I thought I was the fool.


153 posted on 06/05/2014 8:23:40 PM PDT by infool7 (The ugly truth is just a big lie.)
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To: boatbums

Gee it’s taking you a long time to come up with Ad hominem, come on I know you can come up with a 1000 word essay an how Infool7 is such a fool but alas everyone knows that already. You don’t fool anyone. We all know who the real fool is.


154 posted on 06/05/2014 8:33:46 PM PDT by infool7 (The ugly truth is just a big lie.)
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To: boatbums

“Is it so difficult for Catholics to admit wrong was done by those representing their church and determine they will do all they can to prevent it from happening again?”

It is not. My family is from within a mile and a half of where that occurred. I was there this time last year. They, and my family here, are heartbroken about it. I accept the fact that people in my church have failed in a lot of cases, and work to do everything I can to ensure that the humans involved with my church do not sully God’s majesty.


155 posted on 06/05/2014 8:38:05 PM PDT by AbnSarge
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To: boatbums

C’mon bums this is getting old, I even left a few spelling errors in there for you to pick on. You are really passing up a great opportunity. What is taking you so long?


156 posted on 06/05/2014 8:41:28 PM PDT by infool7 (The ugly truth is just a big lie.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Throwing bodies in a septic tank is mere disposal. Criminals have been known to do it to hide dead bodies. A proper Christian burial is to be expected from an organization run by nuns and the Catholic Church, whether or not they were poor. I have very poor ancestors who were buried in a handmade pine box with a fieldstone for a grave marker during the Civil War. It didn’t enter their minds to just dump the body somewhere. The rationalizations of the faithful here are actually shameful. This was not good, it was wrong. The Irish who discovered it were shocked. To listen to some of the excuses made here, the Irish shouldn’t have even batted an eye, rolling naked dead bodies into whatever crack or crevice was just what they did. Rather insulting to the Irish, if you ask me. It never ceases to amaze me, the lengths some will go to.

As someone who is a determined pro-lifer, it really bothers me to read about such things because I know about all the anti-life, pro-abortion rights people out there who will look at this as just another example of "religious" people who don't care about the children that come from unplanned or unwanted pregnancies. See, they will say, you claim you want to help pregnant women and girls but once the baby is born, you don't care anymore. Here is a prime example of that - a thousand dead babies tossed one on top of another in a used concrete septic tank, forgotten, unmarked, as if they never lived at all. "Hey! At least they weren't aborted!"

This reflects badly on ALL pro-life people, not just Roman Catholics. It distresses me and SHOULD do so for others.

157 posted on 06/05/2014 8:44:05 PM PDT by boatbums (Proud member of the Free Republic Bible Thumpers Brigade.)
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To: AbnSarge

Thank you. It is something ALL pro-lifers should work towards.


158 posted on 06/05/2014 8:45:37 PM PDT by boatbums (Proud member of the Free Republic Bible Thumpers Brigade.)
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To: crazycatlady

It is what it is regardless of the source or alleged “bias”.

Being Jewish, I know all about bias. I also know when hearing about some terrible things that rabbis and orthodox sects have done or are doing, I’m ashamed and disgusted by it and would not give one second’s thought to defending it.

I can’t imagine what your point is regarding the forensic challenges. Is it that the 800 bodies were carted in from elsewhere?


159 posted on 06/05/2014 9:07:03 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: boatbums

Sorry, forgot to add the link. Of course, you could have googled it, if you seriously cared about exposing “evil” in your religion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bethany_Home

Guess this means I’ve “put up,” so now I don’t have to “shut up,” as you so eloquently phrased it.


160 posted on 06/06/2014 3:24:58 AM PDT by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby. LIFB.)
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