Posted on 03/08/2014 6:07:03 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome
So when did Ann's and Obama Sr.'s "whatever happened happened fast" wedding happen? For no apparent reason, confusion abounds among Obama's biographers over the wedding date:
1. Dreams claims that Ann and Obama Sr. were in married "in 1960"; similarly, Mendell's 2007 book claims that the couple were married "sometime in late 1960" when they "slipped off alone to the island of Maui"; and both Obamaland (2008) by Ron Jacobs (with contributor David Maraniss) and a 2007 Washington Post article claim that the two were married "late in 1960."
2. A 2007 Chicago Tribune article vaguely claims that Ann and Obama Sr. were married "six months before" Barack's birth on Aug 4, 1961 -- or, in other words, sometime in early 1961.
3. An April 2008 Time article by Amanda Ripley, as does Maraniss's August 2008 article, gives a specific date of February 2, 1961 for the wedding, apparently based on Ann's and Obama Sr.'s 1964 divorce records mysteriously appearing on the web. But since fake documents have been known to appear on the web, Obama's biographers, Ripley and Maraniss, might want to verify the 1964 divorce documents especially since a Feb. 2, 1961 marriage date for "Ann and Obama Sr." wasn't reported in any Honolulu Advertiser or Honolulu Star-Bulletin marriage lists from February 1961. Take the February 8, 1961 Star-Bulletin, which listed eighteen marriages from Feb. 3, Feb. 4, and Feb. 6, and no Feb. 2 marriages, and the February 7, 1961 Advertiser, which listed eleven marriages from Feb. 2 to 4, including two Feb. 2 marriages.
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Mark has been put into a horrible situation and I’m sure has done the best he could under such circumstances, most likely. He never asked to be in the public eye or to have to attest to false stories as truth. If he refused and told the truth as far as he knows it - well, he probably knows what happened to Lia.
I’m thinking that when you have someone with one parent of the jewish faith, and the other parent is muslim, maybe it’s the muslim half that has trouble with the truth, and the jewish side is sainted?
Never lose your sense of humour. Truth prevails. It’s like that hair conditioner. It doesn’t happen overnight, but it happens...
“A few years later, they divorced and, uh, he met my mother (pauses, utters whi) Ruth Baker, when she was at Harvard Universi, uh, uh, at Harvard.”
When was Ruth Baker “at” Harvard? Didn’t she go to Simmons?
“FN is a genius researcher and provides evidence, and no speculation’
So what does the evidence, sans speculation, say? Is Mark lying or not? If the answer is yes, then where IS the evidence? It’s never been posted here, certainly.
And btw, what evidence do you have that Mark has been forced to lie? He has opposed and alienated Obama at every turn. He’s exposed Obama’s lies. Obama hates his guts. How on earth do you arrive at the conclusion he’s been threatened into lying?
His sainted jewishness forgot himself, and the lying muslim side took over, it’s just a symptom of split personality. What else could one expect?
He’s tripping over his own tongue because he forgot his lines. Normally, he’s quite lucid. There are other examples on that same site. The people at W.T.P.O.T.U.S. blog do a wonderful job, and they don’t put up with obots or BS.
He’s a man, a human being with the same foibles and shortcomings we all have, and he has a mother in Kenya who he needs to protect. I’m surprised she hasn’t moved to China herself.
That's Mark as baby. Unfortunately, he just happens to be the same child she's holding in this group:
And I keep asking, who is that dark boy who is old enough to almost reach her waist? He looks to be about five years old. Mark was born in 1965, the image therefor has to be dated from 1966. So once again, who is the dark boy who had to have a birth year of 1961?
No one wants to go there. All they keep doing is telling me the child she's holding is 'David' - well, sorry, but if that dark boy isn't Mark, as HE maintains, then who the heck are we looking at?
It's got to be his muslim half at work.
‘The people at W.T.P.O.T.U.S. blog do a wonderful job, and they dont put up with obots or BS.’
The site you so highly recommend affirms David’s life and death:
‘About five minutes into the audio, Mark refers to himself and Barack as the two, only two, mixed race kids in the Obama family. This is curious because Mark had a full brotherDavid Obamaalso the son of Ruth Baker and Barack Obama Sr. This brother, although now deceased, was of mixed race, too. He lived into his late teens, and so would have shared the same problems as his brother and half-brother, with trying to fit into more or less racially homogenous cultures.’
The supposed discrepancy is easily resolved. Mark is speaking in the present tense. He & Barry are the only two mixed race Obamas now. He doesn’t mention David because David is long dead. I.e.: he’d have had to shift to past tense to include David (which he didn’t do because he was speaking of the present, not the past). That’s just simple English language usage.
That 'they met while they were both at Harvard' was an early fairy-story, it was later revised. Mark must have committed Part One to memory...and it stuck, so he had to correct himself. That entire interview was a study in what happens when you memorise a script that keeps changing...poor fellow. It wasn't his best day.
I watched the entire interview several weeks ago. Mark comes across quite well throughout. You really have to be a hyper critical nitpicker attack artist to take him apart over it. Or else just really hate him.
Hes a man, a human being with the same foibles and shortcomings we all have, and he has a mother in Kenya who he needs to protect. Im surprised she hasnt moved to China herself.
Exactly.
Arpaio and Zullo have gotten a lot of new info in the last five or so months, and that is what they are working on, and when they have their next press conference, it will be...interesting.
They are looking for truth, and apparently finding a lot of it, and they obviously cannot be bought or intimidated.
Perhaps that was simply far too subtle. What she should have written was This is curious because Mark IS CLAIMED TO HAVE had a full brotherDavid Obamaalso the son of Ruth Baker and Barack Obama Sr.
But subtle isn't everyone's cup of tea, nor is irony. A lot of people are sometimes just too busy looking for the next place to rearrange the chairs on the Titanic.
Sadly, there are folks who don't take the time to read a comment, think about it, reply after consideration, or ask a question. Dung flinging isn't progress and doesn't do a thing for understanding.
...About five minutes into the audio, Mark refers to himself and Barack as the two, only two, mixed race kids in the Obama family. This is curious because Mark had a full brotherDavid Obamaalso the son of Ruth Baker and Barack Obama Sr. This brother, although now deceased, was of mixed race, too...
“Perhaps that was simply far too subtle. What she should have written was This is curious because Mark IS CLAIMED TO HAVE had a full brotherDavid Obamaalso the son of Ruth Baker and Barack Obama Sr.”
Lol. She wrote what she meant. You twisted her quote into something she didn’t say and then you pretend it was she, not you, who said it. You have quite a habit of putting fake quotes into people’s mouths, don’t you? It’s the only way to get them to say what you WISH they’d said.
HYPER CRITICAL NITPICKER ATTACK ARTIST
‘HYPER CRITICAL NITPICKER ATTACK ARTIST’
Yes, that’s how your incessant harping against Mark for this interview comes across. As petty and obsessively critical. This is the biggest fault you can find w him—that according to you he’s insufficiently polished in this interview. So you make it out as if he’s some kind of sinner for not living up to your standards of articulation. It is way, way over the top.
That’s the beauty of living in a democratic country, you are entitled to express your opinions. Me, mine, and you, yours. Is that a problem?
When you make it clear it’s your opinion that’s one thing. But when you put your opinion in someone else’s mouth and try to convince people they said something entirely different than what they actually said, that is wrong.
I’m not the first intended victim of the illness that drives you, I have watched as you did the same you are doing to me, to others, it’s your MO and your passion. So be it. There’s a destructive force at times in all of our doings, sometimes we just need to learn to live with it. What it’s doing to your psyche is another matter. Have you considered professional help? Or has your latest psychiatrist given up?
As I am about to do. One sicko on a thread is enough. Do carry on, your next quarry will be waiting in the wings.
from W.T.P.O.T.U.S. blog:
Heres where Ruth comes into the tale again. We recently discussed another article that said that Ruth and BHO Sr. met AT HARVARD. However, we pointed out, Ruth didnt attend Harvard and the story is that she was a school teacher in the suburbs at the time they met. But Mark, in this audio, CLEARLY says, when she was at Harvard University. Then he corrects himself and says, at Harvard. They met AT HARVARD. Why did he change his phrasing? If Ruth didnt ATTEND Harvard, as the official story says she did NOT, then how else might she have been at Harvard to meet BHO Sr.? Was she perhaps teaching THERE, at Harvard? Ruth wont give her age, but census records say Ruth was born about 1937. If she was on track, then she would have attended college about 1954-1958. They met in June, 1964, the story goes. See the timeline: http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/ot/ So Ruth was either in grad school somewhere or else had been out of school for a good 5-6 years. Teaching? Teaching what and where? Heres our Ruth post, for reference: http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/obama-mystery-theater-ruth-nidesand/ Ruth attended Simmons College after graduating from high school in 1954; she graduated from Simmons in 1958, so although younger, she was ahead of her husband in schooling.
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