Posted on 03/08/2014 6:07:03 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome
So when did Ann's and Obama Sr.'s "whatever happened happened fast" wedding happen? For no apparent reason, confusion abounds among Obama's biographers over the wedding date:
1. Dreams claims that Ann and Obama Sr. were in married "in 1960"; similarly, Mendell's 2007 book claims that the couple were married "sometime in late 1960" when they "slipped off alone to the island of Maui"; and both Obamaland (2008) by Ron Jacobs (with contributor David Maraniss) and a 2007 Washington Post article claim that the two were married "late in 1960."
2. A 2007 Chicago Tribune article vaguely claims that Ann and Obama Sr. were married "six months before" Barack's birth on Aug 4, 1961 -- or, in other words, sometime in early 1961.
3. An April 2008 Time article by Amanda Ripley, as does Maraniss's August 2008 article, gives a specific date of February 2, 1961 for the wedding, apparently based on Ann's and Obama Sr.'s 1964 divorce records – mysteriously appearing on the web. But since fake documents have been known to appear on the web, Obama's biographers, Ripley and Maraniss, might want to verify the 1964 divorce documents – especially since a Feb. 2, 1961 marriage date for "Ann and Obama Sr." wasn't reported in any Honolulu Advertiser or Honolulu Star-Bulletin marriage lists from February 1961. Take the February 8, 1961 Star-Bulletin, which listed eighteen marriages from Feb. 3, Feb. 4, and Feb. 6, and no Feb. 2 marriages, and the February 7, 1961 Advertiser, which listed eleven marriages from Feb. 2 to 4, including two Feb. 2 marriages.
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PIng to new post by Fantasywriter:
“Btw, there is a photo on the cover of Mark Ndesandjo’s new memoir, Cultures, of David and Mark together. David looks pretty miserable, but it’s a good photo nonetheless. .”
http://b-i.forbesimg.com/evacairns/files/2013/12/Cultures-Front-Cover-654x1024.jpg
The boys appear to be about aged 9 for Mark and 6 for David making the date of the photo to be around 1974. This would be about 4 years later than the circa 1970 family picture of Sr. Ruth, Mark and David and the studio pictures of the two boys also from around 1970-71 given their apparent ages.
David still shows a strong resemblance to Barry, as would be expected to be possible for a half-brother. This resemblance of David to Barry is one of the best indicators that they could have the same father, BHO Sr. IMO.
This picture blows up the Mal-Val Narrative requirement that David never existed, required to spin a narrative that there was a “baby swap” in about 1964 at which time Barry, a claimed biological son of Malcolm X and a Lebanese actress, Valerie Sarruf, was inserted into Hawaii in the care of nanny Stanley Ann Dunham. In the Mal-Val Narrative BHO Sr. had a son born in Jan 1961 who grew up to be “Roman Obama” that was babysat in Seattle that month and whose mother was mistaken for Stanley Ann at that time.
All of the details of the Mal-Val Narratiive insinuated on this thread all to way back to about comment #300 and going forward can be found on the Mal-Val thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2913366/posts?q=1&;page=1#1
Re:”Mal and Val - not Ann and the Old Man” Any evidence Valerie Sarruf is Obama’s mom? (vanity)
Ping to # 763. Also check out # 759, and # 760. See photos in between...
Thanks, Seizethecarp.
No doubt frank didn’t see it as child molestation but as introducing his young charge to earthly delights. He was a proud communist. They don’t follow truths.
I believe the poem was written from the perspective of a teen boy. While Frank started mentoring him earlier, Frank could have waited til the boy was past puberty before taking sexual advantage.
How did it become clear to you that Stanley Ann wasn’t his mother? What ruled it,out?
Ok, the cover from that book to me is proof that BHO sr is the bio father of BHO jr. Those three guys have similar features that look genetic. Of course mark and David look more alike than either does to our Pres. But they do look very much like they share a father.
Thanks for sharing that.
This is the first time I’ve read the Mal and Val scenario and I don’t believe a word. Occam’s Razor is 95%. Go with the straightforward.
Huge resemblances of our Pres to Stanley Ann and her dad. Stanley Ann appeared to be his (harmful) mother. Big Stanley appeared to be his Gramps. Typical White Madelyn seemed extremely interested in trying to keep up appearances for her more typical social life, trying to have her daughter appear married, trying to help little Barry appear American, and always being there for him when his parents were not. That is a grandmother for you.
Huge resemblances I see now with BHO senior’s sons with his other white wife.
Occam just texted me from his Razor: BHO and Stanley Ann are his bio parents, if crappy at parenting.
This thread did it for me.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2702976/posts
Basically the simple answer is (and I am probably leaving important parts out:
1. No evidence of SAD in HI until 1963. None.
2. No photos of her preg or baby photos with Zero, first photo with her and Zero, he looks to be 2 1/2 or so.
3. Obviously a sham marriage with the Kenyan 0bama - no evidence any any marriage, so by “sham” I mean there wasn’t one. There has been debate on how divorce papers can be obtained without an actual marriage, and the discussion someplace turned out that sometimes divorce does happen w/out an actual marriage.
4. No evidence at all, even hearsay (other than one off the cuff remark by Abercrombie who is a commie stooge and it isn’t believalbe anyway) that SAD and the Kenyan were ever seen together in HI. In fact, memories of those who knew him or were acquainted with him when he was in HI never saw him with her or knew of her existence.
5. There is a photo of baby Maya and SAD, at least one.
6. There appear to be no birth records of Zero at Kapiolani or Queens’ hospital. The Cold Case Posee has said this as well.
7. Whatever “records” are in the Dept. of Health in HI are ludicriously untrustworthy, and pages and pages have been written about the research that has been done proving this.
8. Both “birth certificates” produced by team “Obama” are forged. Ask this: If SAD was his mother, why would the second forged birth certificate have had “mother’s name” placed onto the forgery in bits? Why couldn’t they have used his real b.c. with her name on it and just changed whatever they needed to change? Why did the forger/s have to make up a birth cert. out of “whole cloth” so to speak? If she was his mother, there would be a b.c. with his and her name on it. Nope, there isn’t one.
9. The discovery of one “Anna S. Obama” in Seattle in 1961 gummed up the words for the liars. There is no mention of SAD and baby Zero in Seattle in “Dreams”. So at that point a false narrative of SAD being in Seattle had to be created after the fact (after the propaganda backstory book). The supposed transcript of SAD at the Univ. in Washington State was never seen on paper, it was emailed to Corsi, and has been proven a number of times to be fake, as attested to by a freeper who lived in Seattle at that time and attended the Univ. at that time. Dates are entirely wrong, for one thing.
10. THere is more that is wrong with Anna S. Obama being SAD, gone into in detail on the link above.
This is off the top of my head, I am sure there is much more.
Oh, when SAD and Lolo were living in HI with little girl Maya, their tax returns show Maya as a dependent but not Zero. He was living, apparently with the Dunhams, unless he was in Indo at that point (someone else would know). Why wasn’t he living with SAD if she was his mother, and why wasn’t she supporting him or counting him as a dependent? Answer: Because he isn’t her son.
On the contrary, that poem was written by an adult as a memory of something that happened to a child. Child molesters don’t wait, they generally start with the very young, nine or ten is most common.
That is also another question that needs to be asked, and answered. But they can’t answer it.
You’re welcome for the link to the photo of Mark and David. Personally I don’t think David looks all that much like Barry/Barack Obama in this particular pic. But I do agree there is a strong family resemblance. I’ve been reading a wide range of interviews with Mark Ndesandjo. To a man, the reporter comments on his uncanny resemblance to Barry/Barack Obama. I too have come to believe he is BHO Sr.’s offspring. The family resemblance is pretty strong.
One thing about Stanley Ann and when she was in HI. People say there is no evidence of her being there in ‘60. Yet David Maraniss interviewed many people who remembered her in HI in ‘60. He included their names and quotes in his biography of Obama. It is true that to his consternation he couldn’t find a single person who remembered Stanley Ann and Obama Sr. being a couple. Not one. But lots of people remembered them individually.
Makes one wonder how he managed to get them all together in one bunch, Malik is the number one son of the man who isn’t zero’s father, with one of his wives, of whom he now has thirteen, then there’s Kezia who had a child in 1961, in October, according to the UK archives, while her husband was in Hawaii getting more than one ‘blonde’ pregnant, and the centre-piece, the man himself whose parents and date and place of birth remain unknown, and Bernard iirc, the one who almost didn’t make it because he was up on charges for an attack of a sexual nature in the UK, but was able to enter the US just in time by the use of a false name. And there he is, Mark, the son of Ruth and the kenyan, born in 1965, the year after Ruth married his father in Nairobi. She left him because he was a violent drunk and they apparently divorced in 1973, and when she remarried, Simeon Ndesandjo they had a son named Joey (Jospeh) who is standing there smiling on the left. I’ve skipped trying to name the woman standing next to Malik, she’s only one of thirteen wives and the children he’s had since that photogaph was taken are legion. Btw, it’s extremely doubtful that any children Kezia had (other than Auma)after the kenyan arrived in Hawaii and then married Ruth, were the progeny of the man who says he divorced her, because she had a child to another man two years after he arrived in Hawaii. The official version is that he and Kezia continued marital relations even while he was married to Ruth in Nairobi...but as Kezia herself said, she was working as a waitress in Mombasa; so that might have been a little awkward.
So now you’ll find the extra offspring shown as ‘adopted’.
Such a lovely family.
His school records show he was Indonesian. He was the legal son of an Indonesian in Indonesia, ergo he was Indonesian.
They would have removed it
Who is, "They, exactly?
Can you name any names?
just as they removed her 1965 passport application.
"They" could just have not known what they were looking at it. You certainly don't seem to.
"They" are not omniscient.
Hope this helps.
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