You're the one with the organ and cup, not me.
Posted on 02/25/2013 9:25:42 PM PST by Seizethecarp
Your point about 2004 being the watershep year for document sealing (re: Obama’s birth records, etc.) is a good one. Had he been groomed from an early age, he’d have never been allowed to tell his first agent in 1980 that he was born in Kenya. Even if he’d let it slip, the Kenyan-birth-bio would not have been allowed to stand unchallenged for 13 yrs. Obama was a lazy, chooming nobody back in 1980 and for many yrs after. It was only much later that Soros’ $ kicked in and records began to change or disappear.
watershep = watershed
Yes, it’s from a recent book.
I have many hundreds of links and most of the articles are stored on my hardrive and off site. I have taken part in discussion threads since way before the first election, some were over ten thousand comments long, I know most of the story inside out - and if there’s anything in partcular you want to see or follow up, be my guest, ask me ONE AT A TIME or use keywords on Google. If chickenhead could find the article on AllAfrica about the kenyan coming to America and marrying a woman named ANNA TOOT, you, being so incredibly smart should be able to locate what-ever you are looking for.
IF YOU CARE TO LOOK.
But that takes time. And you’re not here to learn, you’re here to what?
Maybe he believed it. Maybe he got such a shock when he found out who it was, that's why he removed the image from his webpage. (sarc)
There are some truths that are self-evident. And as I said, it's not compulsory, believe it or not. The sky may be black where you are. You may name a rose a stinkweed but it still smells like a rose.
I really don’t understand your point, you’ve discovered the one and only image there is of the boy whose image Malik uses to promote his fund raising activities - a boy who appears to be somewhat polynesian and has one dark arm, and no one has been able to find him. The rest of the story about ‘David’ comes out of ‘Dreams’ and you can make of it what you want. It carries on to desribe how zero and Auma, one day, in the street, met a man who mistook zero for ‘David’ because they looked so much alike...and sadly, they had to explain to the man that no, zero wasn’t ‘David’ he had died...
Wake up and smell the coffee. You’re being played.
Glad to hear about your work and your shoulder. Must be nice to be back on the job. I was sorry, though, to hear about your arm. Broken arms are no fun. I speak as one who’s had four of them, two of the *extremely* serious type. I hope yours heals quickly.
What type of material have you been reading? Fiction or nonfiction? I haven’t had time to do enough reading even to comment on. I tend to read nonfiction online and fiction offline, when time permits.
I too took a long FR hiatus. Like you, a couple of posts lured me back. These were by known liberals on a different thread. I’ll probably opt back out of posting soon. Just too much else to do.
Anyway, it really is good to see you back, however briefly. I’ve said it before: you have the best sense of humor of any poster I know. Best on your ongoing work, etc., FW
And just what does that make Joel Gilbert? He also has Frank Marshall Davis living at an address which housed the Elk Club that was many miles from the residence...where Joel maintained he found a piece of flooring that matched the photo's of the floor in the nudie photographs...that had been lying there for 50 years. He's just a poor man's Michael Moore. A little scumbag.
What your watching is mediation in the format of a trial. The plaintiff and defendant have signed an agreement to have their case adjudicated by a mediator, Judge Judy. Judge Judy is not bound by the rules of the Court.
Your problem is that you are the sort of party-guest who needs so desperately to be seen as a know-it-all you don’t allow anyone else to speak, and the moment someone else opens their mouth, you interject with all the garbage you’ve collected and then demand to hear the punchline. I’m NOT playing this your way. In any polite society, you would have been ejected by now. You are a bore. I suggest you remain quiet and learn to listen.
Your comprehension is so limited, you really do need to take this information in one step at a time.
Repeat after me:
There’s been nothing that shows Stanley Ann Dunham was the natural mother of zero.
...you’re here to what?
To get you to do what you said you would do.
...I can provide links and sources to everything I've written.
...you, being so incredibly smart should be able to locate what-ever you are looking for.
IF YOU CARE TO LOOK.
Now, now...we both know what I found the last time I went looking for stuff at your prompting. Your skirt was exposed, literally, and I got chewed out. I'll just ask you to provide that which you've already indicated you had.
Oh, I get it! You can provide links and sources, not you will provide links and sources.
Sophistry becomes you. Or did I misunderstand you?
None of the foregoing really matter however, because it should be pretty obvious by now that you've got nothing and are simply trolling these threads either to disrupt them or simply to gain attention.
FWIW, I will never again comment to you or about you on this forum until you've followed your sock puppet, Todd Rodriguez on a one-way ride off the site.
Sven,
We’re now living under a full-fledged communist system with all its in-your-face intimidation, threatening and silencing opposition mostly by the Chicago Mafia’s offers many can’t refuse.
Are you trying to say that you committed a federal crime and illegally obtained evidence that threatens a communist dictator and his regime, yet they left you alone for a year or more?
If so, there are two possible explanations for leaving you alone:
1- They checked you out and found that you’re just bragging and you have nothing, which is a known disease afflicting anonymous Internet posters, OR,
2- They didn’t need to check you out because you’re on their team and a disruptive force on the eligibility threads.
In fact, you have the gall to accuse FReepers who are in two camps fighting it out on FR threads of being “OBOTS and ConcernedFreepers!” This didn’t happen once, rather, repeated by your zotted mouthpiece Todd Rodriguez and followed by a third time whining to the mods.
I made life easier for you by giving you a multiple choice, so which will it be, door 1 or door 2?
I’m afraid, Sven, should you decide to answer, you will have to do it on your own this time because you can’t answer through Todd Rodriguez anymore.
If you don’t answer, it’ll speak volumes about what you’re doing here.
I told you, if you want sources to anything (and most of it IS common knowledge,) ask me ONE AT A TIME. If I feel like it, I’ll reply.
AND DO IT NICELY.
I’m not on trial here, Mr Pretend Prosecutor.
btw, if the question is so inane it’s not worth my time, I won’t bother. Like the name of a book. Go find it. It was published recently. Your forte is NIT PICKING.
Thank you for posting this thread. It led to an epiphany. First, a little background. I have been active on this site for quite some time, and I’ve been a birther for a very long time. As such, I made a lot of online friends who are active in the FR birther community. Some have been pretty good friends: fun, funny, witty, and just overall enjoyable people to know. Others were just brothers-in-arms, but as such they were solid compatriots and really decent people.
But of course I’m speaking about these people in the pre-SADO-Not-The-Mother-Theory [SNTMT] days. One by one, as my good friends embraced this theory, they changed. They went from friendly, collegial and engaging people to hostile, vicious and aggressively uncivil people. They turned on old friends on a dime, and attacked them w abusive posts of the type formerly not even allowed on FR. The rest (of the SNTNT subscribers) looked on w approval. All because one nonbeliever or another questioned their theory.
So I asked myself, how can a person’s personality change so much? What can take a formerly decent, pleasant individual and turn him/her into a rabid attack dog?
What did it in this case is what amounts to ‘birther enlightenment’. They discovered ‘the truth’. A truth known only on FR—it has not one single proponent on the Net’s preeminent birther site, BirtherReport/ObamaReleaseYourRecords. Not one. The only place on the entire Net where this truth has a toehold/even-a-very-limited-following is on FR.
Now here’s the really interesting part. Once a person sees the light/embraces this particular truth, they turn vicious. It doesn’t matter how long they may have known a good, solid conservative, or how friendly they were w that person in the past. If that person fails to embrace the SNTMT, they become The Enemy. They are brutally and very personally attacked. What’s even more interesting is this: no matter how vile and protracted the attack, none of that person’s former friends ever, not once, intervenes. I.e.: no one [who embraces SNTMT, anyway] says, ‘Hey, that is a good conservative and a long-time Freeper. How about lightening up a little on the personal stuff?’
Rather, once a person knows the real birther-truth, no personal attack on a nonbeliever is over the top. The goal is to destroy the nonbeliever, and to that ends any degree of nastiness and even dishonesty is condoned.
So I asked myself, what other truth has this effect on its believers? I couldn’t think of any. Normally, when a person discovers a great truth—such as that Jesus really is the Lord and Savior—they become nicer, not meaner. They care more for their friends, not less. Disloyalty and abusive behavior don’t replace kindness and caring.
So what is it that is so unique about the SNTMT that causes such a vicious reaction in its proponents? Why does this truth singularly convert warmth and friendship into hatred and abuse?
The truth may be found in a post written by FN. Here it is the revelatory part:
[me] “ ‘...You may disagree w Edge, but a more staunch defender of the Constitution you will not find. Just a little something to think about, when the rhetoric turns heated.’
[FN] Deserves an answer...I’ll remind you I am an Australian. What I have seen so far is that your precious constitution hasn’t been able to save you from your current situation. The truth might.”
Notice the pejorative toward our Constitution. It’s ‘precious’ in a demeaning sense, and it hasn’t ‘saved’ us from our current situation/crisis. But the truth might.
And there it is in a nutshell. To the proponents of birther-enlightenment, what they have discovered trumps even the US Constitution. It rises to such a level of criticality, it may end up saving us as a nation, as opposed to the Constitution which has failed.
Obviously any truth of this magnitude is going to trump all else: friendship, kindness, decency, you name it. The truth becomes everything. Once you come to the place where the truth (re: Barry/Barack’s parents) supercedes even the US Constitution, of course you have to browbeat, attack and destroy anything that gets in the way. The survival of the nation is at stake, and only true believers can save it. No amount of collateral damage is too high a price to pay. Thus former friends do indeed become The Enemy, and no kind or degree of personal attack, no matter how dishonest or vile, is over the top. This is the real truth of SNTMT. Nothing less explains it. Period.
Seriously, not a lot of reading going on. I caught up on my sleep thanks to the pain pills. My first broken bone ever and the pain was horrible due to location. Any finger flexing was excruciatingly painful. With four under your belt I'm sure you understand. I'm pretty well healed now. Some slight numbness in the thumb and index finger still, but it lessens every day.
I did do some "self help" reading, though I doubt if it will help me much as I'm rather set in my ways...Less Than Words Can Say
I'll try to use his advice. It was still an enjoyable read.
As smart as you claim yourself to be I figured that you would have everything nicely prepared and ready to substantiate your argument.
Will another year find you suitably prepared or should I expect the same response then?
Like the name of a book.
Asking you the name of a book from whence you've posted images is NIT PICKING? Why are you so afraid to give the title of the book?
You are simply so petty I can’t be bothered. Let that penetrate. I told you, want something? Ask me nicely.
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