Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.
But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.
And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.
And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.
That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.
Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.
I need more?
The one sentence comeback from those who deny there is one Church.
Who denied that?
What I denied was your narrow definition of it.
Yup; we both know it's coming: it's in the Book!
Uh...
The fellow you responded to?
I guess that means I'm not a bigot.
Bigots do not hate only one other religion.
***Straw argument.
First of all, it ain’t bigotry what you’re seeing on this thread, it is confrontation of false teachers, just as Jesus did in His time.
Second of all, it is not hatred, unless you’re gonna accuse Christ of hatred when He confronted the false teachers of His day?
Third of all, JimRob is the one who posted this thread and he addressed bigotry directly... do you accuse him of bigotry? If so, why post here if the site is OBVIOUSLY run by an admitted bigot?
Fourth of all, mormonism is not a religion, it is a cult based upon all kinds of terrible practices, sordid desires such as pediophilism & bigamy, denial of basic Christian tenets, and outright con artistry.
Fifth of all, these christian warriors have been exposing this cult for over a decade, and you never seemed to bother reading up on the issues in your 14 years of daily reading of Free Republic. You owe it to them, if you’re gonna comment out of ignorance like you have been, to start reading some of those threads and commenting THERE, rather than here.
That's quite an Obamaesque statement!
20 years under Jeremiah Wright and he never heard...
Oh; never mind.
Have you a clue as to what the Church of Rome says about MORMONism?
Here is what it says about YOU:
"Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent"(The Seer, p. 255 Orson Pratt )
There is nothing in Genesis that refers to the Mashiach.
Gen 49:12 His eyes are darker than wine;
***Wow, I’ve been posting a typo this whole time... and look how long it took you to go and see for yourself. How long is that, 3000 posts?
You’re right, it’s Genesis 49:10,and yes SHILOH is the Messiah so there IS something in genesis that refers to Messiah. Not only that but there is at least one other prophecy in Genesis about Messiah:
He will strike your head, and you will strike his heel Gen 3:15.
“The scepter shall not depart from Judah,
Nor the ruler’s staff from between his feet,
***The scepter departed from Judah when the Romans conquered it, and the ruler’s staff at the same time. Judah lost self determination at that time, which is about the time that Jesus was born... per God’s plan.
You’re off your rocker.
***You’re very quick to judge, when there was a simple typo involved. Also, it took you a long time to check your own scriptures. It is likely to take another 3000 posts before you actually confront yourself with this new information from Genesis 49:10. And, of course, all along you have been carefully ignoring the claim about Jesus being God Himself — that even the sanhedrin and enemies of Christ acknowledged at the time.
So... why so quick to do one thing but slow to do the other? It’s a spiritual issue. You’re in denial and you need to check on this stuff. Your soul could be at stake.
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***You’re very quick to judge, when there was a simple typo involved. Also, it took you a long time to check your own scriptures. It is likely to take another 3000 posts before you actually confront yourself with this new information from Genesis 49:10. And, of course, all along you have been carefully ignoring the claim about Jesus being God Himself — that even the sanhedrin and enemies of Christ acknowledged at the time.
So... why so quick to do one thing but slow to do the other? It’s a spiritual issue. You’re in denial and you need to check on this stuff. Your soul could be at stake.
So Kevmo, I answered your question.
***I have been posting lots of questions to you. Lots of them, and you’ve answered ONE of them. How many do you get to ignore? I see that you’re immediately in PESTER mode about ONE question, but you get to ignore a whole bunch that I’ve sent your way. So... what’s fair? You answer 10 of my questions? 20? 5? All of them? Also, my claim is that your OWN SOUL may be at stake, and here you are pestering me about some political activity. Is my OWN SOUL at stake in answering YOUR question?
Here’s what I think will happen. You’ll continue to pester me about this ONE question while ignoring my questions to you. Even if you do make a half-hearted attempt at answering them, we can expect no more from you than to look up a verse that’s 2 verses away from the answer and then go into PESter MODE. The problem is... your soul IS at stake if you address my questions so give that some weight in your ponderings.
Well, gee, why din’t you just call him Arrogant Bass Turd? Acronyms only work when everyone agrees on them, right? Otherwise, BOHICA.
Ok, let’s use your version. It still says
Genesis 49:10 The scepter shall not depart from Juah,
Nor the ruler’s staff from between his feet;
And here’s the difference:
So that tribute shall come to him
And the homage of peoples be his.
***And exactly Who does the homage of peoples belong to? Whose tribute? Messiah, that’s who. Your messiah has already come. His name was Jesus. There’s also Isaiah 53 and various other passages. Are you serious about investigating this? Or are you going to continue to try to find ways of wiggling out of it?
Because you utterly refuse to tell me what Bible you are using.
***What have you been smoking? I never refused to tell you. I don’t even think you’ve ASKED me. I usually look things up on biblegateway.com or some similar website.
You refuse to read G-d’s word as given to Moses.
***No, I’ve read the whole Bible, both old and new testaments.
You instead use an “Old Testament” rewritten and changed by a ton of people over the centuries after G-d COMMANDED YOU NOT TO.
***Well, that’s news to me. Where has God commanded this? Where is the definitive online version for us to agree on as scripture? Plus, while we’re at it, when are you going to acknowledge the historical claims of Jesus as Messiah and GOd Himself?
Even the Mashiach is not G-d.
***Then you acknowledge the FACT that Jesus claims to be GOD HIMSELF. We christians are either blasphemers or we hold the truth. There is no middle ground.
You think Mashiach means savior. It does not.
***How on earth did you come to the conclusion that you know what I think? I think Messiah means ‘leader’.
I really don’t want to offend any JC followers that I have high regard of their faith,
***And yet, if we believe that Jesus is God Himself, how high regard can you hold that? It’s obviously antithetical to your own faith. Personally, my preference is not to offend anyone over faith, either, but Jesus inserts Himself here for the benefit of you, and possibly others.
but you are seriously pushing into a territory where that is going to happen if you keep going down this route.
***You’re already there, claiming that Jesus is not God.
So I think you are trolling because you didn’t even bother to post further in the “Why don’t Jews accept Christianity?” thread, where this conversation belongs.
***Oh, I’ve lost track of that one. I’ve gotten caught up in some these other threads. Did you want to move over to that one and have this conversation?
Why Did the Jews Reject Christianity?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2917768/posts
Assuming that he existed,
***That’s how the article starts. You have posted various things about “JC” on this thread. So does that mean you acknowledge he existed? What do you consider historical? Even the enemies of Christopher Columbus acknowledge that he sailed across the ocean in 1492, what do you consider the basic facts of Jesus and his walk on this earth? Do you acknowledge that it is historically accurate fact (even his enemies acknowledge it) that he claimed equality with God before the sanhedrin?
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