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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: RepoGirl

He;s a liberal. Far from it I’ve talked to himand he is not but the way you are acting is making you look very small and stupid and yes even liberal.


161 posted on 08/11/2012 5:47:18 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m ecstatic about Paul Ryan!

Here’s some of the Best of Paul Ryan vids posted elsewhere:

1. Ryan totally owns President Narcissus in the healthcare so-called “forum” - Look how scared Obutthole appears when Ryan starts to speak (at 3:00 Obama isn’t even listening and at 5:30 Obama flips him off):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-lxg7XrF6I&feature=related

2. And after one of President Narcissus’s speeches:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT30c5qbk90&feature=related

3. Ryan totally owns MSNBC:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9ThvOyrPCw&feature=related

4. And more recently:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bib7kKBhqs&NR=1&feature=endscreen
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That said, Jim, I’m truly puzzled by this obstinate insistence on not doing the ABO vote (Anybody But Obummer).

If your contempt for Mormons is so strong, can I ask you why isn’t your contempt for our Muslim President Bork Obunga even GREATER than your contempt for Mormons?

I find that viewpoint disturbing because many Muzzigers want to exterminate us and I don’t hear that from the Mormons.

Are you willing to be AWOL in the fight against Bork Obunga and waste your vote and all the other ABR folks’ votes that could be used to unseat this tyrant??? That’s how I see you at this point: AWOL in the fight.

If you don’t swallow your pride and vote the strongest candidate to oppose Obama (with the added Paul Ryan bonus), we WILL HAVE A LOT WORSE PROBLEMS than your concerns about Mormons and a Romney presidency, I guarantee you.

I say, hold your breath and do it. It’s actually rational.

My number ONE issue is getting our country’s finances back together because we are literally on the brink of a spending Obamageddon.

If we don’t get our economic house in order, these petty religious squabbles will be irrelevant compared to what it will be like when American society collapses.

What am I missing here?


162 posted on 08/11/2012 5:48:27 PM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: Tax-chick
"Rep. Ryan looks like the older brother of.........."

Eddie Munster

163 posted on 08/11/2012 5:48:32 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: Sola Veritas

nail head, well said.


164 posted on 08/11/2012 5:48:55 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Chief901

Our primary candidates didn’t win.

Like in sport play offs when your team loses, you route for the next best alternative in the final round.

Patriots and soldiers died to save this country. We owe them to vote for a chance to toss Obama out.

Romney has taken conservative stands during the campaign. If he “evolves”, we can hold him politically accountable.

Ryan will be at his side getting the economic reforms done. That alone is worth it.

Otherwise O will be appointing two more Marxists Lesbians to the court and driving up even more unsustainable debt that will sink the nation.


165 posted on 08/11/2012 5:49:25 PM PDT by garjog
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To: Just mythoughts

Of course, you are right. Anyone who would take notice of historical lessons is a fool, charge on and let the purges continue.


166 posted on 08/11/2012 5:50:09 PM PDT by centurion316 ( I)
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To: t1b8zs

No, why?


167 posted on 08/11/2012 5:50:36 PM PDT by Lady Lucky ( 'Better than the worst' is not the same as 'good.')
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To: Williams

She could handpick Mitt Romney to run as her V.P. and I’d STILL vote for your Aunt Tilley against Obama!


168 posted on 08/11/2012 5:50:42 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: AlanGreenSpam

“What am I missing here?”


Everything. Mitt Romney is a lying socialist. The fact that he is a Mormon is just the icing on the cake.


169 posted on 08/11/2012 5:51:35 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: Jim Robinson

That’s right, Jim, hang on to your “principled conservative” moon bats!

Lose your moderators with any integrity!


170 posted on 08/11/2012 5:52:56 PM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: Third Person
'I’ve been called repeatedly an Obama lover and a troll for stating my opposition to Romney. It seems I’m in good company.'

Naaaaaw I'M in good company...

Top Ten Reasons To Dislike Mitt Romney:

1. Drop-dead, collar-ad handsome with gracious, statesmanlike aura. Looks like every central casting's #1 choice for Commander-in-Chief.

2. Been married to ONE woman his entire life, and has been faithful to her, including through her bouts with breast cancer and MS.

3. No scandals or skeletons in his closet. (How boring is that?)

4. Can't speak in a fake, southern, "black preacher voice" when necessary.

5. Highly intelligent. Graduated cum laude from both Harvard Law School and Harvard Business School...and by the way, his academic records are NOT sealed.

6. Doesn't smoke or drink alcohol, and has never done drugs, not even in the counter-culture age when he went to college. Too square for today's America?

7. Represents an America of "yesterday", where people believed in God, went to Church, didn't screw around, worked hard, and became a SUCCESS!

8. Has a family of five great sons....and none of them have police records or are in drug rehab. But of course, they were raised by a stay-at-home mom, and that "choice" deserves America's scorn.

9. Oh yes.....he's a MORMON. We need to be very afraid of that very strange religion that teaches its members to be clean-living, patriotic, fiscally conservative, charitable, self-reliant, and honest.

10. And one more point.....dumb asses say because of his wealth, he can't relate to ordinary Americans. I guess that's because he made that money HIMSELF.....as opposed to marrying it or inheriting it from Dad. Apparently, he didn't understand that actually working at a job and earning your own money made you unrelatable to Americans.

THE STUNNINGLY BEAUTIFUL, STUNNINGLY BRAINY, STUNNINGLY ARTICULATE ANNIE COULTER AGREES WITH ME. YOU KNOW THE CONSTITUTIONAL LAWYER THE ONE WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN LAW DEGREE, LAW REVIEW AND AUTHOR OF 8 BEST SELLERS? .... LOOKS LIKE I'M IN GOOD COMPANY....AS ANN POINTS OUT MITT'S AGAINST OPEN BORDERS, OBAMACARE AND HE CAN ATTRACT ENOUGH INDEPENDENTS TO BECOME ELECTED... http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2012-02-22.html
171 posted on 08/11/2012 5:52:56 PM PDT by jimsin (S)
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To: GreyFriar
by agreeing to be Romney’s VP, Ryan just showed his true RINO colors. No true conservative would have agreed to be Romney’s VP

I think Paul Ryan believes what i believe - we cannot survive another four years of Obama. How could he refuse the chance to start to undo the damage Obama has caused?

Here's what I've been wondering: how will reelecting Obama get us any closer to seeing a conservative elected in 2016? By then the welfare state will have become so deeply rooted that it will be far too late.

172 posted on 08/11/2012 5:53:13 PM PDT by TonyInOhio (You didn't build it, but the private sector is doing fine.)
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To: GlockThe Vote
Nothing would ever satisfy the ABR crowd.

It would satisfy me and I'm a ranking officer in the ABR corps.
173 posted on 08/11/2012 5:53:46 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: AlanGreenSpam
What you are "missing" is that you always
spin any TRUE FACTS about Mr. RomneyCARE as
"Mormon hate". You are wrong.

Mr. RomneyCARE invented DEATH PANELS.
We KNOW you like that.

Mr. RomneyCARE invented gay marriage without a vote.
We KNOW you like that.

Mr. RomneyCARE invented ObamaCARE.
We KNOW you like that.

Mr. RomneyCARE invented calling TAXES by the name "fees"
We KNOW you like that.

Mr. RomneyCARE supported TARP.
We KNOW you like that.

Mr. RomneyCARE ruined the GOP in Mass.
We KNOW you like that.

Mr. RomneyCARE installs DNC judges.
We KNOW you like that.

What is "missing" is honesty on your part.

174 posted on 08/11/2012 5:54:29 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Jim Robinson

At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon “bigot” on FR.


I’ve seen the “Anti-Morman Bigot” accusations. They seem as hollow as the old “If you don’t support Obama it’s because you’re a racist” crap.

A handful might reject Romney purely over his religious beliefs. The vast majority reject him because he’s a perfect fit with the Liberal-Progressive platform.

Thanks for your great work and your amazing website.

God bless you.


175 posted on 08/11/2012 5:54:43 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (If there is a war on women, the Kennedys are the Spec Ops troops.)
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To: digital-olive

“Please don’t let this election tear us apart everyone, we are all on the same team even if we disagree here and there.”

Sorry, apparently some of us are on Team Kenya.


176 posted on 08/11/2012 5:54:52 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: AlanGreenSpam; RaisingCain

“What am I missing here?”

“Everything. Mitt Romney is a lying socialist. The fact that he is a Mormon is just the icing on the cake.”

Raising cain,
And what do you think barak hussein is??? Truth telling non-socialist???


177 posted on 08/11/2012 5:55:04 PM PDT by Chong
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim, why would any non Mormon think Joseph Smith was a prophet or that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God? That part is easy.


178 posted on 08/11/2012 5:56:12 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Sola Veritas
I will be voting third party for the office of POTUS this November.

David Axelrod thanks you for your firm support of the Obama Campaign. He's hoping that you will follow that up with a financial contribution, but that's not really necessary, you've done enough.

179 posted on 08/11/2012 5:56:12 PM PDT by centurion316 ( I)
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To: AlanGreenSpam

Mormonism? No, that was just a behind the scenes policy squabble here on FR.

Here’s why I object to Romney:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQoBxZZPqU&feature=player_embedded

And if he needs MY vote to win, he’s in heap big trouble. My vote doesn’t mean squat here in California.


180 posted on 08/11/2012 5:56:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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