Posted on 08/01/2012 11:18:33 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
"Meet The Parents....of alias Barack Obama. Black Sunni Muslim father and White Lebanese Christian mother. Born in the ME, raised in Indonesia, became BHO II in 1982." Dr. Ron J. Polland
The “Mal-Val” youtube video at the link was posted by FReeper Polarik (Dr. Ron Polland) in August of 2011 and while morphing the image of a woman named “Val” into an image of Obama, he insinuates that “Val” is Obama’s mom. One year later this youtube has only 1,150 views.
In July 2012, two FReepers associated the woman, “Val,” in Polarik’s Youtube with Lebanese actress Valerie Sarruf and have posted multiple images of her at various ages on FR eligibility threads. I am opening this thread to invite discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf is Barack Obama’s mother, with or without Malcolm X being his father.
Where could Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf have been in 1960 when baby Barry would have been conceived? Is there any evidence that Sarruf could have been pregnant and delivered a baby in 1961? In what country could the baby have been delivered? How and when could the alleged Mal-Val baby have been inserted into the identity and life narrative of the person we have come to know as Barack Hussein Obama?
Full disclosure: I refute categorically all of the Mal-Val narrative as wildly speculative and unsupported by any evidence that I have seen so far.
For several years now a shadowy coterie of FReepers styling themselves as “researchers” has gone onto nearly every FR eligibility thread to aggressively refute all evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham was Barack Obama’s mother. They have actually declared flat out that she was never in Hawaii before 1963, contrary to the voluminous evidence including INS FOIA documents!
Requests for links or any evidence that Stanley Ann is NOT the mom have been frequently met with abusive ad hominem attacks and accompanied by claims that ALL documentary evidence showing her to have been in Hawaii in 1960 and 1961 is forged, but no credible evidence of forgery has offered. I make this observation as a retired Certified Fraud Examiner and CPA.
For years the “researchers” had claimed mysteriously to have conclusive evidence that a different woman is Barry’s mom, but refused to reveal her name or any evidence other than her picture because the “researchers” claimed it would disappear from the net and/or from hard copy archives of the records. But this month, the “researchers” appear to have slipped up and revealed that Valerie Sarruf has been the woman whose identity they have been “protecting.” They have since attempted to walk back the revelation, but it is clear, IMO.
The “researchers” claim that they earnestly want to remove Obama from office. But wouldn’t revealing ALL EVIDENCE of a foreign mother and foreign birth (which they also claim) be the most logical approach to removing Obama rather than hiding the identity of this alternative mother for years while attacking FR threads that sincerely attempt to find out where Stanley Ann Dunham was when she gave birth to Barry?
In my opinion, the best evidence that Valerie Sarruf is NOT Barry’s mother is the mountain of evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham IS his mother, which the “researchers” have totally failed to refute.
Again, please use this thread for discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf IS Barack Obama’s mother with or without Malcolm X being his father.
The one pregnant woman who is NOT a celebrity unable to escape the media (the first one) appears to be fleeing the camera!
I am not sure why you included as the last picture the 1964 picture at Oxford, England of Valerie Sarruf behind Malcolm X as she doesn’t look pregnant to me and I have seen no evidence that she was pregnant at the time (if ever)...or that she was ever impregnated by Malcolm X circa 1960, as claimed by the Mal-Val Narrative Cult to support the two of them being parents of POTUS Barry.
Note that to this day the word “confinement” is synonymous as a perhaps more polite word for pregnancy:
http://www.medicineonline.com/articles/C/2/Confinement/Pregnancy.html
Good heavens man, surely you aren't suggesting that these two perfectly innocent victims of malicious gossip had a long running relationship and that his girlfriend in the UK may have had another child after his appearance at the Oxford Union, where the man who advocated a MAU MAU for the United States of America, got to address the members about the usefulness of VIOLENCE? How terrible. And who's that girl anyway, I can't find a caption with her name on it. Getty archives used to have this image in their Hulton archive, but lately, I can't seem to find it no more...
I have many pictures from 1900 to 1920 of relatives who have large baby bumps. They don’t seem shy of anything.
LOL! How did you do that...? Step into the future?
The above URL links to the page you wanted to show. No one is going to answer your question when all they can see is a little red cross.
And as best as I can make it out, he’s resting his right arm on his own knee.
made one comment...sniff sniff
Maybe she also lives at that address in New York - What was it? W 118 Street? Is that in Harlem?
Maybe u should have read one of Corsi's four articles about Polland's work in WND? Maybe Polland's article in American Thinker?
While u were arguing about Stanley Ann Dunham under the idea that she is a real person, Polland has a convincing argument that she is a composite character in print and a Photoshop in pictures.
People are just now coming out and showing her passport photos were forged. Polland was like, "Been there, done that" when they first came out in Strunk's FOIA, IIRC.
Remember BO said he used composite characters in "Dreams" and given that Bill Ayers co-wrote this crap, u should have doubted its validity from the get-go.
Now, are u really gonna tell me that u you really believe dozens of Obamanoids cannot be telling the same lies to cover their Messiah's butt?
Really? What flavor is ur Kool-Aid?
On his Youtube channel, TheDrRJP, he has a playlist called
that's a three-parter.
Part 1 was posted November 1, 2010; Part 2 on November 16, 2010, and Part 3 on November 30, 2010; then remixed as this playlist on February 15, 2011 - two months before u were still stuck on "Dreams," Stanley Ann Dunham and Anna Obama, as if they were the Book of Obama, a garbage Gospel.
Hey, Sneezethecarp. He has 1,185 subscribers and 5,435,800 views, so don't make light of 1,150 views for something that appears in three other videos.
I'll go one step further. In July 2011, he published a book called,
Alias Barack Obama: A picture is worth 1,000 lies
It's well worth the two bucks it costs if only to stop this nonsense about "Seeing is believing."
It's also funny as hell, too.
Some of the photos have been debunked by other people but nobody has debunked all 100 of his. That's right 100 fully annotated photos.
Fred Nerks is doing his best to explain the bunch of evidence for a Sarruf-Shabazz hookup and Polland is coming out with a new book that will add the back story to it, as well as reveal the link between Obama and the Muslim Brotherhood.
AND, what do we find in WND today?
OBAMA'S BROTHER CONNECTED TO THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD
How about
OBAMA IS CONNECTED TO THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD?
Another Polland video u missed.
BTW, what is the evidence that this Brotherhood guy has that would put Obama in prison? How about his Egyptian birth certificate?
Check out # 1,653.
Thanks, joenrogers. Interesting.
(You could have emailed me, ya know.)
“Fred Nerks is doing his best to explain the bunch of evidence for a Sarruf-Shabazz hookup and Polland is coming out with a new book that will add the back story to it, as well as reveal the link between Obama and the Muslim Brotherhood.”
Is that you, Fred Nerks, pretending to be “joenrogers”? Or is it Ron Polland?
If joenrogers is a real person I apologize for these intemperate insinuations on my part. I welcome any actual evidence regarding Barry’s origins.
I had a run-in with Ron Polland over the infamous “baby footprint” in which I believe I caught Polland in a demonstrable misrepresentation...just before the thread (and I) got zotted. Maybe it was a misunderstanding.
It is easy to claim that photos have been photo-shopped and easier to morph faces of people together.
I see a lot of hand-waiving in this comment by “joenrogers” but not a single contemporaneous document that an be validated in discovery in a court.
In contrast there are many cross-corroborated documents in state and private archives that cross-corroborate Stanley Ann being at UH in the fall of 1960 and at UW in the fall and spring of 1961. These documents include the UH and UW registrar’s records, the HI and WA Polk directories and the INS FOIA documents...all of which DESTROY Barry’s fake life narrative and show him to be a huge liar and his father to be a loathsome sexual predator and bigamist...none of which one would expect Obots to have forged to “help” Barry, IMO.
As to Barry’s Muslim Brotherhood connections, I wouldn’t look to his bizarre half-brother for anything serious. Certainly some other places, but not there, IMO!
BTW, as this thread is about who Barry’s mom and dad are, Malcolm X was NOI, not even close to being MB in 1960 when Barry was conceived, IIRC. Maybe Polland can explain it all, but I doubt it.
How about his Canadian, Belize, Ecuador, Haiti, Brazil, Lebanese,.......Birth Certificate.....
Is that you, SeizetheCrap, pretending to be “joenrogers”?
Thank you, will watch tomorrow.
I need to watch this.
Got 100% overwhelmed lately...
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