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Re:"Mal and Val - not Ann and the Old Man" Any evidence Valerie Sarruf is Obama's mom? (vanity)
Seizethecarp vanity commentary on Dr. Ron J. Polland youtube dated 08/07/11 ^ | August 1, 2012 | Seizethecarp (vanity)

Posted on 08/01/2012 11:18:33 AM PDT by Seizethecarp

"Meet The Parents....of alias Barack Obama. Black Sunni Muslim father and White Lebanese Christian mother. Born in the ME, raised in Indonesia, became BHO II in 1982." Dr. Ron J. Polland

The “Mal-Val” youtube video at the link was posted by FReeper Polarik (Dr. Ron Polland) in August of 2011 and while morphing the image of a woman named “Val” into an image of Obama, he insinuates that “Val” is Obama’s mom. One year later this youtube has only 1,150 views.

In July 2012, two FReepers associated the woman, “Val,” in Polarik’s Youtube with Lebanese actress Valerie Sarruf and have posted multiple images of her at various ages on FR eligibility threads. I am opening this thread to invite discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf is Barack Obama’s mother, with or without Malcolm X being his father.

Where could Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf have been in 1960 when baby Barry would have been conceived? Is there any evidence that Sarruf could have been pregnant and delivered a baby in 1961? In what country could the baby have been delivered? How and when could the alleged Mal-Val baby have been inserted into the identity and life narrative of the person we have come to know as Barack Hussein Obama?

Full disclosure: I refute categorically all of the Mal-Val narrative as wildly speculative and unsupported by any evidence that I have seen so far.

For several years now a shadowy coterie of FReepers styling themselves as “researchers” has gone onto nearly every FR eligibility thread to aggressively refute all evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham was Barack Obama’s mother. They have actually declared flat out that she was never in Hawaii before 1963, contrary to the voluminous evidence including INS FOIA documents!

Requests for links or any evidence that Stanley Ann is NOT the mom have been frequently met with abusive ad hominem attacks and accompanied by claims that ALL documentary evidence showing her to have been in Hawaii in 1960 and 1961 is forged, but no credible evidence of forgery has offered. I make this observation as a retired Certified Fraud Examiner and CPA.

For years the “researchers” had claimed mysteriously to have conclusive evidence that a different woman is Barry’s mom, but refused to reveal her name or any evidence other than her picture because the “researchers” claimed it would disappear from the net and/or from hard copy archives of the records. But this month, the “researchers” appear to have slipped up and revealed that Valerie Sarruf has been the woman whose identity they have been “protecting.” They have since attempted to walk back the revelation, but it is clear, IMO.

The “researchers” claim that they earnestly want to remove Obama from office. But wouldn’t revealing ALL EVIDENCE of a foreign mother and foreign birth (which they also claim) be the most logical approach to removing Obama rather than hiding the identity of this alternative mother for years while attacking FR threads that sincerely attempt to find out where Stanley Ann Dunham was when she gave birth to Barry?

In my opinion, the best evidence that Valerie Sarruf is NOT Barry’s mother is the mountain of evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham IS his mother, which the “researchers” have totally failed to refute.

Again, please use this thread for discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf IS Barack Obama’s mother with or without Malcolm X being his father.


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To: Brown Deer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVI1kN7mg2A


1,361 posted on 05/14/2013 8:27:49 PM PDT by ObligedFriend
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To: Fred Nerks

Yes they are redaction numbers.

I remember seeing them in a set of the FOIA docs.

And I think the earliest passport docs for SADO are from ‘68.....


1,362 posted on 05/14/2013 8:32:11 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: GregNH

A321 could be a gate/terminal designation.


1,363 posted on 05/14/2013 8:38:29 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: LucyT

http://youtu.be/UVI1kN7mg2A?t=1m18s


1,364 posted on 05/14/2013 8:39:46 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Fred Nerks; F15Eagle; GregNH; All

FredNerks,

B7 redaction code from that guide you linked to refers to LAW ENFORCEMENT.

The other one refers to ‘revealing agency practices’.


1,365 posted on 05/14/2013 8:49:08 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Brown Deer

Scamming Texans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pbOhORIzr4


1,367 posted on 05/14/2013 9:01:57 PM PDT by ObligedFriend
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To: F15Eagle

THEY ARE NOT ‘HIS FAMILY’

They are his beard family. If he doesn’t support them, they might reveal his true identity. It’s a ‘marriage of convenience’.


1,368 posted on 05/14/2013 9:03:12 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: WildHighlander57

I posted one of the immigration docs a little way back, and then I posted a link to a pdf that shows the redaction codes. Doesn’t anyone read a whole page anymore?


1,369 posted on 05/14/2013 9:06:10 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: little jeremiah

You got that right, the freak show with a ego the size of moon cheese.


1,370 posted on 05/14/2013 9:09:18 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Brown Deer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_NmmimuHsc

“Im a bad guy”


1,372 posted on 05/14/2013 9:09:56 PM PDT by ObligedFriend
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To: WildHighlander57; GregNH

I see you found the link I posted. Is it useful or not? I have no idea. All I can see is that the information that might tell us the destination on that doc STRUNK provided, has been officially redacted.

Is that correct?


1,373 posted on 05/14/2013 9:13:14 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: little jeremiah
Acually ? the AP scandal will be the thing that the MSM uses to have Obama impeached because the MSM will have the liberals and Democrats turn on Obama during Benghazi impeachment hearings so Obama will be impeached over Benghazi.


Couldn't happen to a more deserving A$$ Hole.
1,374 posted on 05/14/2013 9:13:44 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Fred Nerks
The evil one is on the right.
The other guy is on the left.
1,375 posted on 05/14/2013 9:14:50 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: WildHighlander57
The first passport application date that we have seen for Stanley Ann Dunham was in July, 1965.


1,376 posted on 05/14/2013 9:15:47 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

No matter how you sum it up he’s still evil.


1,377 posted on 05/14/2013 9:16:54 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: F15Eagle
Well, he's not related to any of them, is he? As for the kenyan student being an anti-colonial radical, a few pages back you'll see that he was on a watch-list.


1,379 posted on 05/14/2013 9:23:13 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Hmm - so, how did the unknown wife and son square with the readl BHO the second whom Malik grew up with? I’m a bit confused about that. Didn’t the clan in the village know about the real BHO who later morphed into Roman?


1,380 posted on 05/14/2013 9:24:06 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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