Posted on 08/01/2012 11:18:33 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
"Meet The Parents....of alias Barack Obama. Black Sunni Muslim father and White Lebanese Christian mother. Born in the ME, raised in Indonesia, became BHO II in 1982." Dr. Ron J. Polland
The “Mal-Val” youtube video at the link was posted by FReeper Polarik (Dr. Ron Polland) in August of 2011 and while morphing the image of a woman named “Val” into an image of Obama, he insinuates that “Val” is Obama’s mom. One year later this youtube has only 1,150 views.
In July 2012, two FReepers associated the woman, “Val,” in Polarik’s Youtube with Lebanese actress Valerie Sarruf and have posted multiple images of her at various ages on FR eligibility threads. I am opening this thread to invite discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf is Barack Obama’s mother, with or without Malcolm X being his father.
Where could Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf have been in 1960 when baby Barry would have been conceived? Is there any evidence that Sarruf could have been pregnant and delivered a baby in 1961? In what country could the baby have been delivered? How and when could the alleged Mal-Val baby have been inserted into the identity and life narrative of the person we have come to know as Barack Hussein Obama?
Full disclosure: I refute categorically all of the Mal-Val narrative as wildly speculative and unsupported by any evidence that I have seen so far.
For several years now a shadowy coterie of FReepers styling themselves as “researchers” has gone onto nearly every FR eligibility thread to aggressively refute all evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham was Barack Obama’s mother. They have actually declared flat out that she was never in Hawaii before 1963, contrary to the voluminous evidence including INS FOIA documents!
Requests for links or any evidence that Stanley Ann is NOT the mom have been frequently met with abusive ad hominem attacks and accompanied by claims that ALL documentary evidence showing her to have been in Hawaii in 1960 and 1961 is forged, but no credible evidence of forgery has offered. I make this observation as a retired Certified Fraud Examiner and CPA.
For years the “researchers” had claimed mysteriously to have conclusive evidence that a different woman is Barry’s mom, but refused to reveal her name or any evidence other than her picture because the “researchers” claimed it would disappear from the net and/or from hard copy archives of the records. But this month, the “researchers” appear to have slipped up and revealed that Valerie Sarruf has been the woman whose identity they have been “protecting.” They have since attempted to walk back the revelation, but it is clear, IMO.
The “researchers” claim that they earnestly want to remove Obama from office. But wouldn’t revealing ALL EVIDENCE of a foreign mother and foreign birth (which they also claim) be the most logical approach to removing Obama rather than hiding the identity of this alternative mother for years while attacking FR threads that sincerely attempt to find out where Stanley Ann Dunham was when she gave birth to Barry?
In my opinion, the best evidence that Valerie Sarruf is NOT Barry’s mother is the mountain of evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham IS his mother, which the “researchers” have totally failed to refute.
Again, please use this thread for discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf IS Barack Obama’s mother with or without Malcolm X being his father.
This was intended to be the link for the thread, the link to Dr. Ron Polland’s youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A3bYdwSsr8
Really? Haven’t FR gotten around to banning “Dr” Polarik and his insane zombies yet?
I have seen nude pictures of Baby Barry Momma taken by a family friend & pornographer named Frank.
And that obvious forged Birth Certificate got right past him?
I am a computer software engineer for a living, not a 'certified fraud examiner'
I have WRITTEN imaging software, and I knew within 10 minutes that Obambi's certificate was a fraud.
My observation is that all evidence to date confirms Stanley Ann as Barry's mom...but I EXCLUDE his forged pdf BC from the evidence I consider to show she is his mom. It is not needed, given all of the other evidence.
He must be related at least to Stanley Dunham, because he looks just like him.
Time to get out the potato chips and soda, this is going to be a good show.
I missed that one.
Pictures of Stanley Armour Dunham flashing his “big smile” look much like Barry flashing his “big smile.” Even though Malcolm X's “big smile is also similar, I prefer to go with Occam's Razor and stick with Grampa Stanley as the source of the smile, although appearance can mean very little when determining paternity it won't hold up in court.
The only resemblance I see between Barry and Malcolm X is the general shape of the head and the teeth, but none of the finer features look very similar to me.
Are you kidding? You haven’t gotten the ZOT yet?
I'm hoping that a facial recognition software analysis will eventually be published comparing the nudie woman and SADO. The woman in the nudie pics weighs much less than Stanley Ann appears to weigh in most pictures at all ages with one exception, that being the apparent Halloween picture of her with little Barry appearing to be age two in a pirate outfit..perhaps in 1963. She appears to be very slender in that picture three years after the nudie pics and to me looks more like the nudie woman than in any other picture.
By my calculations, nine months of gestation before a claimed birth on Aug. 4, 1961 would be Nov. 4, 1960 and then a supposedly knowledgeable FReeper says add another week and push back conception to October 28, 1960, which would be even before Halloween. This would have made her already pregnant by Christmas when the nudie pics were supposedly taken.
So she could have been “involved” with BHO Sr in late October, gotten pregnant, and then posed for FM Davis. If she was “with” both of them the paternity of the baby might have been unknown. FMD being already married in the US vs. BHO Sr. pretending to be unmarried in Hawaii, Sr. might have drawn the short straw.
Well, at least some zombies are here and Polarik is still a FReeper, last time I looked.
Yeah, because each time someone peeled off a layer of “Polarik’s” con man cloak he’d run away for a few months, to have his brigadiers bring his sh*t back on and use FR for a billboard.
but, you weren’t here then, were you retread?
The whole face shape and body is the same as the young Stanley Dunham.
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