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To: Mustangman
The civil war wasn't about slavery it was about states rights and peoples constitutional right to property.

Specifically, the federal government wanted to take something of great worth from people without compensation, even freaking Kelo vs New London didn't go that far.

Many studies have concluded that slavery would have petered out on it's own even without the civil war.

Our system of government as originally intended died when the South lost, and we are reaping what was sown with the loss to this day.

14 posted on 07/07/2012 5:19:47 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

So, what you are saying is that if the south won, slavery would have been abolished?

Sell that somewhere else.


17 posted on 07/07/2012 5:28:41 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just hate our government. All of them. Republican and Democrat.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
The civil war wasn't about slavery it was about states rights and peoples constitutional right to property.

The "state rights" the south was fighting for was the right to own slaves, and the "property" was slaves. I doubt you would have looked at it this way if you were one of those slaves.

Specifically, the federal government wanted to take something of great worth from people without compensation, even freaking Kelo vs New London didn't go that far.

Something? Since when are human beings "things"?

Many studies have concluded that slavery would have petered out on it's own even without the civil war.

Well, the south sure fought a hard fight for something that was going away anyway.

18 posted on 07/07/2012 5:29:19 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (With choices like Palin, Cain, and Bachmann, what could go wrong? Now we know.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

That’s the biggest crock of bs I’ve ever read. It wasn’t about slavery? The hell it wasn’t. “Property’’? That’s exactly what slaves were,’’ property’’ and the South was fighting to keep it that way..


42 posted on 07/07/2012 6:31:49 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

The federal government hadn’t done a single dang thing - Lincoln had vowed to only prevent further expansion of slavery into the western territories, and he hadn’t even been sworn into office when the southern states seceded. They had no legitimate grievances, they just stormed out in a huff when an election didn’t go a way they liked.


62 posted on 07/07/2012 6:55:28 AM PDT by JerseyanExile
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To: TexasFreeper2009

The Civil War was about a states right to have slaves. What other ‘right’ were the southern states fighting for? None. It’s time to get passed that ‘feel-good’ analysis.

With that said, the Civil War would never have occurred if the South stopped pushing for the expansion of slavery into the territories (Read speeches by JC Calhoun and Jefferson Davis. It’s like listening to Hitler in English). Anyway, if the south would have simply accepted the containment of slavery and not pushed for expansion they probably would have bought 50 more years of cruelty to their fellow man as you suggest. But, the South kept pushing and pushing slavery expansion and this is was just unacceptable to people of goodwill.

The south started the Civil War by Shaking the Devils hand and they continued it by not letting go when the North asked them too. Sorry. I’m a Republican just like you but, no way does the south get to rewrite hoistory to make it feel better about itself.


131 posted on 07/07/2012 11:42:14 AM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Indeed!


255 posted on 07/21/2012 9:12:41 PM PDT by DIXIEBELLE2012
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